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    1000 HP Benz?

     

    A tuner from Germany did it with a SL65.

    Here i found the news: Mercedes MKB P1000 SL65 Black Series 1015PS 1300Nm


    Re: 1000 HP Benz?

    1000 hp and 1300 Nm on the rear wheels - how well does it manage to get the power down to the road surface?  


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    Re: 1000 HP Benz?

    easy_rider911:

    1000 hp and 1300 Nm on the rear wheels - how well does it manage to get the power down to the road surface?  


     

    Easy answer – not very well! As every other powerful MB except SLS…

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    haha was just gonna say, it's like the Brabus.... tires will SUFFER! 


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    If it comes to tuning, I would go for Brabus only. The reason is simple: while Brabus isn't an official Mercedes Tuner, he gets a lot of technical support from Mercedes/AMG for his work.

    Same with VW: I would only buy a tuned VW/Audi from ABT. 

    MKB isn't a bad Mercedes tuner, as far as I remember, one of the owners was an engineer at AMG but I would still prefer Brabus for the obvious reasons I mentioned.


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    RC:

    If it comes to tuning, I would go for Brabus only. The reason is simple: while Brabus isn't an official Mercedes Tuner, he gets a lot of technical support from Mercedes/AMG for his work.

    Same with VW: I would only buy a tuned VW/Audi from ABT. 

    MKB isn't a bad Mercedes tuner, as far as I remember, one of the owners was an engineer at AMG but I would still prefer Brabus for the obvious reasons I mentioned.

    For a tuned Porsche, where would you go if anywhere at all?


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    For a tuned Porsche ? RUF (they are even an official Porsche repair shop now) and Manthey. I would never however touch a N/A engine Porsche and the new 997 Turbo/Turbo S are already very fast, no need to do engine mods, especially not if you are living in a speed limited region.


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    RC:

     I would never however touch a N/A engine Porsche

    Why? Not strong enough perhaps?


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    Re: 1000 HP Benz?

    0-100 km/h in 3,8 s

    0-160 km/h in 6,9 s

    0-200 km/h in 9,7 s.

    It seems to me that this car handles its brutal power pretty well. At least on the straightline...


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    reginos:
    RC:

     I would never however touch a N/A engine Porsche

    Why? Not strong enough perhaps?

     

     

    Depends on which porsche you are talking about,

     

     


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    acrobat:

    0-100 km/h in 3,8 s

    0-160 km/h in 6,9 s

    0-200 km/h in 9,7 s.

    It seems to me that this car handles its brutal power pretty well. At least on the straightline...

     

    I would prefer a 997 Turbo S for much less money.

    Almost same performance (0-100 kph performance even better), reliable, etc.

    Or...to stay in the Mercedes domain: the SLS. Not quite as fast up to 200 kph but still a wonderful car.


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    reginos:
    RC:

     I would never however touch a N/A engine Porsche

    Why? Not strong enough perhaps?


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    If done properly, you may gain a 5% power plus on N/A engines with a high flow catalyst system and adapted engine software. On a 400 hp engine, this would mean 20 hp. Ridiculous, not worth it.

    Of course you can gain up to 10% more power but using a different exhaust and software only, this would surely be a way to put the engine into Nirvana sooner or later.

    Using "stronger" parts and modifying a N/A engine (incl. reliability) above the 5% power gain would be possible but very expensive. This is why many tuners prefer to use a supercharger kit instead, it makes things easier. Smiley


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    Speaking of Ruf, I had the oportunity to speak with Alois lately and when I asked him about the engine in the 997.2 TT, its reliability and tuning potential, he didn't sound very enthusiastic...But he said something about an experimental V8 that Ruf developed and got Porsche very interested.

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     The whole design of that monster Mercedes doesnt bring the impressive torque to the ground. So why to have it.... number crunching and penis enlargement! I rather have a car with 600 HP which works great instead driving an car which cant handle the power (and this already is true for some small cars like a Cooper S which cant handle the traction!).


    Re: 1000 HP Benz?

    acrobat:

    0-100 km/h in 3,8 s

    0-160 km/h in 6,9 s

    0-200 km/h in 9,7 s.

    It seems to me that this car handles its brutal power pretty well. At least on the straightline...


    On a sticky drag-strip this means nothing...


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    Boyko23:
    acrobat:

    0-100 km/h in 3,8 s

    0-160 km/h in 6,9 s

    0-200 km/h in 9,7 s.

    It seems to me that this car handles its brutal power pretty well. At least on the straightline...


    On a sticky drag-strip this means nothing...

    The 3,8 s 0-100 time maybe not. But what about the 100-200 km/h time of 5,9 seconds? Smiley


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    RC:

    For a tuned Porsche ? RUF (they are even an official Porsche repair shop now) and Manthey. I would never however touch a N/A engine Porsche and the new 997 Turbo/Turbo S are already very fast, no need to do engine mods, especially not if you are living in a speed limited region.


    Yes RUF is indeed one of the best, if not the best guys out there working on Porsche, that´s why I was very surprised to see few years ago a Supercharger Kit tuning with a weird warranty policy made by them for the 996 and 997.1 (it still exists) Smiley These cars are known for their trouble engines, and RUF made what many other tuners gave up doing, after some bad results. Forced induction was never a great idea on any atmo Porsche, let alone the M96 series.

    As to the tuned Mercy, I believe the real power difference must come from 200Kph up, it must leave the Turbo S in the dust at those speeds, still, the Turbo makes WAY much more sence than this monster.

    J.Seven


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    Herbaliser:
    Speaking of Ruf, I had the oportunity to speak with Alois lately and when I asked him about the engine in the 997.2 TT, its reliability and tuning potential, he didn't sound very enthusiastic...But he said something about an experimental V8 that Ruf developed and got Porsche very interested.


    Reviving this old thread...


     


    Re: 1000 HP Benz?

    RC:

    If it comes to tuning, I would go for Brabus only. The reason is simple: while Brabus isn't an official Mercedes Tuner, he gets a lot of technical support from Mercedes/AMG for his work.

    Same with VW: I would only buy a tuned VW/Audi from ABT. 

    MKB isn't a bad Mercedes tuner, as far as I remember, one of the owners was an engineer at AMG but I would still prefer Brabus for the obvious reasons I mentioned.


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    Christian,

    Little off topic but have you heard Evotech from Germany? 


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    Re: 1000 HP Benz?

    The N/A 3.8l factory powerkit adds 6%. Tuners such as FVD and Cargraphic offers kits which adds up to 11%. I don't believe there is a lot of difference between the factory kit and these other kits except for the high flow cats... and voiding the warranty  

    Hence if you add the factory kit with additional high flow cats you should get around 10% (415-420HP) in a fairly safe setup, but it will cost a fortune so you might as well have bought a GT3 from the beginning.


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