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    Re: 997 facelift could look like this

    The more I look at these new back lights the more I find then ugly and not matching the car at all and not matching P philosophy

    I think the car will have 20 to 25 HP more, but I hope to get a nice surprise....

    Re: 997 facelift could look like this

    I like the facelift, it looks like more aggressive than actual!!

    Please add the red-line in the rear.. I love the red-line!

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    Jeez... the headlights are so ugly with those CGT style units... like someone said above, makes me go cross-eyed... Think it's time to buy a 993 C2S...
    -Joost-

    Re: 997 facelift could look like this

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    Gnil said:
    I think the car will have 20 to 25 HP more, but I hope to get a nice surprise....




    From Porsche???

    Re: 997 facelift could look like this

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    Joost said:
    Think it's time to buy a 993 C2S...
    -Joost-



    Ya know? That's an excellent strategy. Forget NEW Porsches, just keep our current 997/Ss and find and purchase older Porsches.

    That way we can enjoy the evolution of these cars from week to week by choosing to drive an earlier car. Driving a 993 all week and then jumping into your 997 and driving THAT for a week (over and over) might be a source of sustainable long-term joy.

    ___MAYBE___, since the 997 is the 911 perfected, there's no way for Porsche to go but more "mass-marketed," more poser, more dumbed-down styling.

    Just a guess, I would be sad it it turned out to be true...

    .


    Re: 997 facelift could look like this

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    Rossi said:
    Quote:
    Gnil said:
    I think the car will have 20 to 25 HP more, but I hope to get a nice surprise....




    From Porsche???



    I know..I know.. I am just dreaming that the competition ( M3 ) might scare them a bit pushing for 10 HP more... but .. It would not make any sence in the line up, no room for a power kit, too close to GT3....


    998 : 405 HP, 1290 kg .....

    Re: 997 facelift could look like this

    I agree. This new facelift will not make me want to change my current car.

    Re: 997 facelift could look like this

    Someone could post a rear pic of 997 facelift in black?

    Thanks friends!

    Re: 997 facelift could look like this

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    berfes said:
    Someone could post a rear pic of 997 facelift in black?

    Thanks friends!



    Here's one:

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    another:

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    It's funny isn't it?

    Every time a model "refresh" comes about, the people who already own the previous incarnation HATE the new one!

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    stubenhocker said:
    It's funny isn't it?

    Every time a model "refresh" comes about, the people who already own the previous incarnation HATE the new one!



    I haven't own a 997, but I perfer the "old one".

    Re: 997 facelift could look like this

    My sentiments exactly. How many 996 owners thought the 997 was too bland and boring, "what? no red stripe on my C4".

    Re: 997 facelift could look like this

    Second thought on the potential re-design. I wish they'd come up with some form of screening, not easily visible, to shield the oil coolers (or radiator, or both) located in the front, from bugs and birds. Hopefully, they could make it easier to keep clean and free from debris.

    Jim

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    Jim48 said:
    Second thought on the potential re-design. I wish they'd come up with some form of screening, not easily visible, to shield the oil coolers (or radiator, or both) located in the front, from bugs and birds. Hopefully, they could make it easier to keep clean and free from debris.

    Jim



    Keep wishing.

    Will "never" happen because it doesn't sell more cars.

    Consider that the PCM has lots of faults (no mute button, no pause button, radio always comes on, nav not at all user friendly, etc., etc.); I bet they didn't spend a dime improving it. With all the criticism they've gotten I expect the new brochure continues to praise itself over how wonderful the PCM is.


    Re: 997 facelift could look like this

    You must be new here. They already have a fix: the multifunction steering wheel. Only $ 990 / $ 740 (depending on model) for the wheel + $ 930 to get the proper rim thickness!

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    I like the smaller air intakes of today's 911. If they follow through with the newer '998' design I'll have to check the intakes more often for cats and other small rodents.

    Dan

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    The Groom said:
    You must be new here. They already have a fix: the multifunction steering wheel. Only $ 990 / $ 740 (depending on model) for the wheel + $ 930 to get the proper rim thickness!



    Yeah that's about right.

    To get a mute button you have to get the steering wheel.

    To get the lighting timer adjustments (etc.) you must get the Sport Chrono.

    What's next? if you want X51 you have to get the leather roofliner?

    Who's the marketing genius figuring out how to motivate which buyers to buy which combinations of options? Unreal.

    Re: 997 facelift could look like this

    I like the facelift changes - all of them. And for the record, I have an '06 C2S.

    Porsche needed LED lights to be introduced - this is their way of doing that, and adding a refreshing touch as well. I don't think we'll see it until MY 2009 though (IE. next season, not this one).

    Another nice refresher would be the return of the wide rear red reflector on the 4S.

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    MMD said:
    Quote:
    Jim48 said:
    Second thought on the potential re-design. I wish they'd come up with some form of screening, not easily visible, to shield the oil coolers (or radiator, or both) located in the front, from bugs and birds. Hopefully, they could make it easier to keep clean and free from debris.

    Jim



    Keep wishing.

    Will "never" happen because it doesn't sell more cars.

    Consider that the PCM has lots of faults (no mute button, no pause button, radio always comes on, nav not at all user friendly, etc., etc.); I bet they didn't spend a dime improving it. With all the criticism they've gotten I expect the new brochure continues to praise itself over how wonderful the PCM is.





    There is a mute button, at least on 2006 models. You have to push the audio button, the one for all the detail on what is being played. Then scroll down and check the "mute" option at the bottom. You can then keep on the trip or other function without having to listen to music. I can't recall, but I think the mute stays active, even after turning off the car and restarting it, but that may only be if you don't actually turn the PCM off.

    javascript:void(0)
    :[wall]: I should have noticed this option sooner, but playing with or searching for options on the PCM while driving is not a swift move, at least for me.

    I would say that a separate "MUTE" button, located on the panel, would be a superior and much more user friendly and safer feature.

    Jim

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    Jim48 said:
    Second thought on the potential re-design. I wish they'd come up with some form of screening, not easily visible, to shield the oil coolers (or radiator, or both) located in the front, from bugs and birds. Hopefully, they could make it easier to keep clean and free from debris.

    Jim




    Ditto. Long overdue.

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    Hummmm..., maybe the missing mute button is actually there when you get the Porsche Phone. When the phone rings I betcha the mute activates. I wonder if it pauses things if you have a CD going.

    Would be in accordance with Porsche's "policy" of seemingly carefully regulating the "feature distribution" of options.

    I.e. standard PCM: no _convenient_ mute button

    Multifunction wheel: gets you a mute button

    Porsche phone system integrated into PCM: gets you an auto-mute feature.


    If this were true it seems _totally_ chincy to me!!! WOW.

    Remember: the Sport Chrono has a bunch of "thrown in" miscellaneaous features completely unrelated to the throttle mapping and stopwatch. SC includes minor convenience features which, IMO, should not have been withheld from the non-SC equipped car.

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    It will be funny to read again all your posts within a year from now when the new 997 will be ready for deliver.
    Human nature

    J.Seven

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    J.Seven said:

    It will be funny to read again all your posts within a year from now when the new 997 will be ready for deliver.
    Human nature

    J.Seven



    Carlos

    Re: 997 facelift could look like this

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    J.Seven said:

    It will be funny to read again all your posts within a year from now when the new 997 will be ready for deliver.
    Human nature

    J.Seven



    Yeah, I know..., no problem. I'd consider everything I say like we're talking over a couple of beers.




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    There is a mute button, at least on 2006 models. You have to push the audio button, the one for all the detail on what is being played. Then scroll down and check the "mute" option at the bottom. You can then keep on the trip or other function without having to listen to music. I can't recall, but I think the mute stays active, even after turning off the car and restarting it, but that may only be if you don't actually turn the PCM off.

    javascript:void(0)
    :[wall]: I should have noticed this option sooner, but playing with or searching for options on the PCM while driving is not a swift move, at least for me.

    I would say that a separate "MUTE" button, located on the panel, would be a superior and much more user friendly and safer feature.

    Jim




    The multi -function steering wheel has a separate "mute" button.
    Just push the volume control scroll wheel and it's mute.

    Re: 997 facelift could look like this

    It's nice to see the facelift front bumper has been inherited from the BOXSTER - perhaps the 997 will also inherit a mid-engined layout from the Boxster aswell someday...

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    boytronic said:
    It's nice to see the facelift front bumper has been inherited from the BOXSTER - perhaps the 997 will also inherit a mid-engined layout from the Boxster aswell someday...



    Quite interesting theory.

    Re: 997 facelift could look like this

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    Rossi said:
    Quote:
    boytronic said:
    It's nice to see the facelift front bumper has been inherited from the BOXSTER - perhaps the 997 will also inherit a mid-engined layout from the Boxster aswell someday...



    Quite interesting theory.



    How about a Carrera GT engine in a Boxster with a longer wheelbase.




    Re: 997 facelift could look like this

    We are waiting more pics......

     
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