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    Re: Z4 looks

    Shakal:

    Last rumour I heard is that BMW will likely built coupe version too. Reason for that is many current Z4 owners complain about heavy weight of new Z4.

    That would definitely be the choice for those who want a sports car rather than an overweight boulevard cruiser. Smiley


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    Boxster S 3.4 06 Cobalt / Ocean Blue BMW 123d M Sport 08 Le Mans Blue / Lemon

    Re: Z4 looks

    Seraphim:
    Shakal:
    dreamcar:

    But why, oh why did BMW have to burden this "sports car" with the unecessary weight of a folding metal hard top - I'm guessing here but it must be at least 150 - 200kg heavier than a rag-top.  And this weight is high up in the car, the very last place you want weight!!!!!Smiley

    Further proof that BMW haven't a clue how to make a proper sports car - and I love BMW's - they are probably the worlds best mass produced engine builder by a clear margin and my 123d daily drive is one of the best cars I've ever owned. 


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    Boxster S 3.4 06 Cobalt / Ocean Blue BMW 123d M Sport 08 Le Mans Blue / Lemon

    Last rumour I heard is that BMW will likely built coupe version too. Reason for that is many current Z4 owners complain about heavy weight of new Z4.

    I think Audi did better job with chassis, Audi TT 2.0 TFSI is 200 kg lighter than Z4 23i, even TTS is lighter than Z4 23i.

    I would be very happy if this is true. I like this car very much and would love to see a coupe version which is much lighter.

    Any idea of when to expect it?


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    V6, V8 or V10?

    Coupe will seperate to a roadster - it will be lighter, lower, stiffer with different design features like bigger air-intakes,  rear diffusor, ducktail spoiler... BMW already tested Z4 with fixed roof (roof was covered with black tape, so we thought its folding hardtop roof).

    But I still have high hopes for upcoming Z4 , in this video it seems well balanced in corners. Next month I will have a test drive, I hope I will like it...



    Re: Z4 looks

    Shakal:
    Seraphim:
    Shakal:
    dreamcar:

    But why, oh why did BMW have to burden this "sports car" with the unecessary weight of a folding metal hard top - I'm guessing here but it must be at least 150 - 200kg heavier than a rag-top.  And this weight is high up in the car, the very last place you want weight!!!!!Smiley

    Further proof that BMW haven't a clue how to make a proper sports car - and I love BMW's - they are probably the worlds best mass produced engine builder by a clear margin and my 123d daily drive is one of the best cars I've ever owned. 


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    Boxster S 3.4 06 Cobalt / Ocean Blue BMW 123d M Sport 08 Le Mans Blue / Lemon

    Last rumour I heard is that BMW will likely built coupe version too. Reason for that is many current Z4 owners complain about heavy weight of new Z4.

    I think Audi did better job with chassis, Audi TT 2.0 TFSI is 200 kg lighter than Z4 23i, even TTS is lighter than Z4 23i.

    I would be very happy if this is true. I like this car very much and would love to see a coupe version which is much lighter.

    Any idea of when to expect it?


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    V6, V8 or V10?

    Coupe will seperate to a roadster - it will be lighter, lower, stiffer with different design features like bigger air-intakes,  rear diffusor, ducktail spoiler... BMW already tested Z4 with fixed roof (roof was covered with black tape, so we thought its folding hardtop roof).

    But I still have high hopes for upcoming Z4 , in this video it seems well balanced in corners. Next month I will have a test drive, I hope I will like it...


    Thats great news. Imagine the performance and handling with 150-200kg less weight.

    When will this be confirmed? How do I convince BMW to hurry this up??


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    Re: Z4 looks

    According to my source, Z4 with fixed roof was better to drive than roadster with folding hardtop roof. Thats logical, because its stiffer and lighter.

    Maybe I will rather buy a TTS with 7 speed Stronic for this summer than Z4... will see after test drive..  


    Re: Z4 looks

    you mean TTRS :)
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    Re: Z4 looks

    Seraphim:
    you mean TTRS :)
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    V6, V8 or V10?

            Would be great, but when it will be available?


    Re: Z4 looks

    Geneva introduction. Availability after.

    Information on audi forums says the car is already on insurance databases in germany with final specs. 

    Can you tell me more about the new z4 coupe? If as you suggest it will have larger intakes, spoiler etc will it be an 'M-sport'  type package and what of the Z4 M version?


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    Re: Z4 looks

    Seraphim:

    Geneva introduction. Availability after.

    Information on audi forums says the car is already on insurance databases in germany with final specs. 

    Can you tell me more about the new z4 coupe? If as you suggest it will have larger intakes, spoiler etc will it be an 'M-sport'  type package and what of the Z4 M version?


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            Sorry I don't know anything else. Probably my source doesn't know much more, because he works on different car and some team doesn't have detailed informations what other team is doing on other project...

     BMW knows that many people complain about Z4's weight, so likely they will built a coupe version. It was already tested on Nordschleife and feedback was positive.


    Re: Z4 looks

    I really like this BMW and so does my wife.

    I have a 997  mk1 sports chassis with LSD. What I need now is a cab that looks nice and drives smootly but with sporty feeling.

    If I want a real roadster then...... I shall buy  Boxter!


    Re: Z4 looks

    FLORENT KAVADAS:

    If I want a real roadster then...... I shall buy  Boxter!

    Or even a Boxster.....Smiley
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    Boxster S 3.4 06 Cobalt / Ocean Blue BMW 123d M Sport 08 Le Mans Blue / Lemon

    Re: Z4 looks

    Saw a new Z4 a few hours ago in Dark blue - really great looking car. Challenges the M6 as my favorite looking BMW.

    Really something on the road. 


    Re: Z4 looks

    racerx:

    Saw a new Z4 a few hours ago in Dark blue - really great looking car. Challenges the M6 as my favorite looking BMW.

    Really something on the road. 


    +1 really like it in the dark blue. Probably the nicest new BMW along with the 135i Smiley
     


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    indeed shifting is ancient technology - so is a fuel burning engine..  I happen to like both :) 
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    1986 BMW 325is 5spd 2.5L 168 hp (164 lb-ft) White on Tan leather (parted out) 
    2005 Ford Focus S, 5spd 2.0L 136 hp (120lb-ft) CD silver on grey (sold)
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    Re: Z4 looks

    Any news as to whether we'll see a Z4M? My 1998 Z3M is great and I've not been tempted to replace it with the first two Z4 generations, but the new Z4 is bowling me over


    Re: Z4 looks

    Z4 M is coming next year i heard from my local bmw dealer. There are spyshots on the web already so i think its a certainty.


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    indeed shifting is ancient technology - so is a fuel burning engine..  I happen to like both :) 
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    1986 BMW 325e 5spd 2.7L 121 hp (172 lb·ft) Le Mans Blau on Tan leather.
    1986 BMW 325is 5spd 2.5L 168 hp (164 lb-ft) White on Tan leather (parted out) 
    2005 Ford Focus S, 5spd 2.0L 136 hp (120lb-ft) CD silver on grey (sold)
    1986 Porsche 944, 5spd 2.5L 150 hp (168lb-ft) champagne gold on grown leather. (sold)


    Re: Z4 looks

    Atzporsche:

    Z4 M is coming next year i heard from my local bmw dealer. There are spyshots on the web already so i think its a certainty.

    No Z4 M for now... On spy photos we see Z4 with M package and sDrive40i engine - updated N54 engine.


    Re: Z4 looks

    Shakal:

    According to my source, Z4 with fixed roof was better to drive than roadster with folding hardtop roof. Thats logical, because its stiffer and lighter.

    Maybe I will rather buy a TTS with 7 speed Stronic for this summer than Z4... will see after test drive..  
     

    As far as I know, Audi can't use 7 speed S-tronic with TT platform because of the engine replacement..
     


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    Re: Z4 looks

    pride355:
    Shakal:

    According to my source, Z4 with fixed roof was better to drive than roadster with folding hardtop roof. Thats logical, because its stiffer and lighter.

    Maybe I will rather buy a TTS with 7 speed Stronic for this summer than Z4... will see after test drive..  
     

    As far as I know, Audi can't use 7 speed S-tronic with TT platform because of the engine replacement..
     

     

    I meant 6 upshifts + 1 reverse Smiley  You're right, later after I posted that message I took a closer look on TTS. But at the end I didn't bought anything...


     
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