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    Re: News on the 430 Replacement

    New issue of ams says that F430 replacement is already due in spring 2009. I can't really believe that. Anyway, somebody got news?

    Re: News on the 430 Replacement

    That cannot be correct. They would have problems with the parallel production of Scuderia and F142... Latest rumours were that the car will be delayed, launch spring 2010. Same info from my dealer Smiley

    Re: News on the 430 Replacement

    markus is correct.. launch spring 2010.

    Re: News on the 430 Replacement

    dhayek:
    markus is correct.. launch spring 2010.
    I thought so as well. So enough time to enjoy your Scuderia. Smiley

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    Re: News on the 430 Replacement

    Regardless of the new car's release, the Scud will be enjoyed for years to comeSmiley

    Re: News on the 430 Replacement

    The replacement of Ferrari F430 will be in Sept 2009!!

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    Twin turbo low displacement berfes?
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    berfes:
    The replacement of Ferrari F430 will be in Sept 2009!!
    Can't wait. Smiley

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    im going to start sketching! ill keep you guy updated once i get something worth showing!
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    Re: News on the 430 Replacement

    oh can someone give a quick idea of the upcoming Ferrari's

    (1) F142 = F430 successor with less weight and more performance, but still it's everyday usage

    (2) F149 = is this like a more racing orientated version?? Meaning no F142 Scud equivalent?

    (3) FX70 = Enzo successor??

    Is that the models coming up??? im not up to date and confused with all the numbers and the Fs haha.


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    Atzporsche:

    oh can someone give a quick idea of the upcoming Ferrari's

    (1) F142 = F430 successor with less weight and more performance, but still it's everyday usage

    (2) F149 = is this like a more racing orientated version?? Meaning no F142 Scud equivalent?

    (3) FX70 = Enzo successor??

    Is that the models coming up??? im not up to date and confused with all the numbers and the Fs haha.


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    The successor of the F430 is internally called the F142. I guess we can be sure that it will have better performance than the model it replaces, less weight is a rumour, which would be nice it was true, but what will be hard to achieve.
    Development of the Enzo successor is said to be the FX70, but F149 is the new California. Smiley


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    Rossi:
    Atzporsche:

    oh can someone give a quick idea of the upcoming Ferrari's

    (1) F142 = F430 successor with less weight and more performance, but still it's everyday usage

    (2) F149 = is this like a more racing orientated version?? Meaning no F142 Scud equivalent?

    (3) FX70 = Enzo successor??

    Is that the models coming up??? im not up to date and confused with all the numbers and the Fs haha.


    The successor of the F430 is internally called the F142. I guess we can be sure that it will have better performance than the model it replaces, less weight is a rumour, which would be nice it was true, but what will be hard to achieve.
    Development of the Enzo successor is said to be the FX70, but F149 is the new California. Smiley

     

    What is the latest news on the "Milli Chili" (thousand kilogram car) project?

    Anyone know anything?   Smiley


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    Re: News on the 430 Replacement

    Rossi:
    Atzporsche:

    oh can someone give a quick idea of the upcoming Ferrari's

    (1) F142 = F430 successor with less weight and more performance, but still it's everyday usage

    (2) F149 = is this like a more racing orientated version?? Meaning no F142 Scud equivalent?

    (3) FX70 = Enzo successor??

    Is that the models coming up??? im not up to date and confused with all the numbers and the Fs haha.


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    1986 Porsche 944, 5spd

    The successor of the F430 is internally called the F142. I guess we can be sure that it will have better performance than the model it replaces, less weight is a rumour, which would be nice it was true, but what will be hard to achieve.
    Development of the Enzo successor is said to be the FX70, but F149 is the new California. Smiley


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    Better performance than the F430 ot the Scuderia? For the F142 benchmark in term of performance / weight must be the Scud and not the F430.

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    Ziggy:
    Better performance than the F430 ot the Scuderia? For the F142 benchmark in term of performance / weight must be the Scud and not the F430.

    I'd say better than F430 and about equal to Scuderia. If the successor really will be a twin-turbo V8, then better as Scud as well.

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    Re: News on the 430 Replacement

    I believe that the replacement of the F430 will be about 560 - 580hp... ;) 


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    Nick_Athens:

    I believe that the replacement of the F430 will be about 560 - 580hp... ;) 

    I would be satisfied with 550 only, if it will be lighter than a Scuderia. Smiley



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    IMO, it must perform better than the Scuderia, mostly by weighing less.

    Achieving less weight would not be difficult with an entirely new (slightly smaller) design and increase use of composites - carbon fiber, magnesium, aluminum, titanium etc.

     Therefore:    < weight than Scud + 550hp = Smiley 


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    Re: News on the 430 Replacement

    Alexis posted this here in another forum. It's an illustration how Italian "Quattroroute" thinks the F430-successor might look like. Smiley

    Not bad, but hasn't much to do with reality, I guess. Smiley


    F430_new.jpg


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    Interesting picture Smiley

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    MKSGR:
    Interesting picture Smiley
    Mixture of California and F430, but very nice nevertheless.

    If Ferrari can do something similar, I will be pleased. Smiley

            


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    Re: News on the 430 Replacement

    You really think so? The car is not sexy and lacks the WOW factor. It appears to be a 430 with a revised front. Also, the last thing I would want is for the car to be confused with the California GT.

    I would prefer the Scud styling over this car especially if the performance will be about the same.Smiley


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    Re: News on the 430 Replacement

    Nick, I think the PS of Quattroroute looks nice, but I guess the new car will have a totally different look as it will have not much in common with the F430. Ferrari doesn't play the evolution game as Porsche does, with a new car there always comes a new design as you know. Sometimes you have to get used to the new design, as in my case with the appearance of the Modena for example. I really hope they will get it right this time, as I have rather high expectations in that car: when I think of all the cars, that came after the F430 (which is basically a beefed-up 360), like 599 (suspension) and California (DI and DCT) and now imagine all those benefits summed up in one new car, the F430-successor really should be thrilling. Smiley
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    bad photoshop
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    Stefan I harbor the same hope but not optimistic. In many ways they are following the Porsche formula. Small styling changes but differentiate the car by what is inside. For all I know they may try to use the CA. Gt chassis.Smiley


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    Re: News on the 430 Replacement

    Horrid looks like a hotwheels car, a F360 with California ques.

    Re: News on the 430 Replacement

    Rossi:

    Alexis posted this here in another forum. It's an illustration how Italian "Quattroroute" thinks the F430-successor might look like. Smiley

    Not bad, but hasn't much to do with reality, I guess. Smiley


    F430_new.jpg


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    That front looks a bit like an Camaro!

    I guess - as you mention - the reality will be breathtaking and stunningly total different!


    Re: News on the 430 Replacement

    This PS looks like an evolution of the last 2 cars. Hoping to see something completely new

    Re: News on the 430 Replacement

    I told about it in my last post.........

     the new F430 will be until Sept 2009!  please sell your F430...     Smiley


    Re: News on the 430 Replacement

    berfes:

    I told about it in my last post.........

     the new F430 will be until Sept 2009!  please sell your F430...     Smiley


            I think your mistaken. They still have to finish producing all the scuderias and scuderia 16M first. Also, they will have a lot on thier hands with the california debut.


    Re: News on the 430 Replacement

    update

    engine 4.7L DI NA (not turbo)

    weight not far from 430 scuderia

    new suspensions

    electronics from scuderia

    new stuff on transmission compart

    power level LP560/4


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