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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3 (2017)

    throt:
    RC:
    bluelines:

    That map is clearly for a passenger / co-driver. Don’t see what the issue is or why people find it funny. Excellent idea.

    OK, c'mon...this is so funny, let's have fun with this. Smiley

    blue has found himself inside serious day Smiley...

    They could have used black tape though. The combo is crap Smiley...

    Thank you! CXX option color correct tape only. Anything else is just tacky........


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3 (2017)

    throt:
    RC:
    bluelines:

    That map is clearly for a passenger / co-driver. Don’t see what the issue is or why people find it funny. Excellent idea.

    OK, c'mon...this is so funny, let's have fun with this. Smiley

    blue has found himself inside serious day Smiley...

    Once every 10 years it does happen Smiley


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    2013 Audi S3 | Glacier White


    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3 (2017)

    bluelines:
    throt:
    RC:
    bluelines:

    That map is clearly for a passenger / co-driver. Don’t see what the issue is or why people find it funny. Excellent idea.

    OK, c'mon...this is so funny, let's have fun with this. Smiley

    blue has found himself inside serious day Smiley...

    Once every 10 years it does happen Smiley

    Thank goodness, buddy. Life’s too short Smiley Smiley...


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    throt

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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3 (2017)

    throt:
    bluelines:
    throt:
    RC:
    bluelines:

    That map is clearly for a passenger / co-driver. Don’t see what the issue is or why people find it funny. Excellent idea.

    OK, c'mon...this is so funny, let's have fun with this. Smiley

    blue has found himself inside serious day Smiley...

    Once every 10 years it does happen Smiley

    Thank goodness, buddy. Life’s too short Smiley Smiley...

    Agreed. Let's get back to laughing at the R8 again Smiley


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    2017 991.2 Carrera 4 GTS | GT Silver Metallic - The GT3 Killah!
    2013 Audi S3 | Glacier White


    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3 (2017)

    BjoernB:

    had the same experience with a driver from the Porsche race program - where the instructor tells you even the gear and breaking point - makes a huge difference than being "silent" next to you. broken heart

    btw : you are famous with them  - hahaha - just said I "know" somebody from Canada - didn't had to say more indecision

     

    Well yes, there is only ever 1 active Canadian......................

     


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3 (2017)

    DaveC:
    throt:
    RC:
    bluelines:

    That map is clearly for a passenger / co-driver. Don’t see what the issue is or why people find it funny. Excellent idea.

    OK, c'mon...this is so funny, let's have fun with this. Smiley

    blue has found himself inside serious day Smiley...

    They could have used black tape though. The combo is crap Smiley...

    Thank you! CXX option color correct tape only. Anything else is just tacky........

     

    There are more blue tape everywhere on the outside too................


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3 (2017)

    bluelines:

    That map is clearly for a passenger / co-driver. Don’t see what the issue is or why people find it funny. Excellent idea.

     

    You drove the ring before. You know a printed map, even in that scale, can't tell the details. It's borderline useless.

     


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3 (2017)

    bluelines:
    throt:
    bluelines:
    throt:
    RC:
    bluelines:

    That map is clearly for a passenger / co-driver. Don’t see what the issue is or why people find it funny. Excellent idea.

    OK, c'mon...this is so funny, let's have fun with this. Smiley

    blue has found himself inside serious day Smiley...

    Once every 10 years it does happen Smiley

    Thank goodness, buddy. Life’s too short Smiley Smiley...

    Agreed. Let's get back to laughing at the R8 again Smiley

    You mean crying...because you always see my rear(s) only. Smiley


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991.2 Carrera GTS Cabriolet (2018), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mercedes E63 S AMG Edition 1 (2018), Mini JCW (2015)


    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3 (2017)

    Whoopsy:
    bluelines:

    That map is clearly for a passenger / co-driver. Don’t see what the issue is or why people find it funny. Excellent idea.

     

    You drove the ring before. You know a printed map, even in that scale, can't tell the details. It's borderline useless.

     

    Smiley


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991.2 Carrera GTS Cabriolet (2018), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mercedes E63 S AMG Edition 1 (2018), Mini JCW (2015)


    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3 (2017)

    RC:
    bluelines:
    throt:
    bluelines:
    throt:
    RC:
    bluelines:

    That map is clearly for a passenger / co-driver. Don’t see what the issue is or why people find it funny. Excellent idea.

    OK, c'mon...this is so funny, let's have fun with this. Smiley

    blue has found himself inside serious day Smiley...

    Once every 10 years it does happen Smiley

    Thank goodness, buddy. Life’s too short Smiley Smiley...

    Agreed. Let's get back to laughing at the R8 again Smiley

    You mean crying...because you always see my rear(s) only. Smiley

    The GTS is a killah, remember Smiley...R8 and GT3 arse kicker Smiley...


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    throt

    "I Have Done It!".

    991 GT3 pick up in October 2014.

    991 GT3.2 pick up April/May 2018. ( Hairy Chest Spec ).

    Vauxhall Zafira 1.6 Exclusive pick up June 2013. ( Shit Box )

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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3 (2017)

    This is what happens when one doesn't have that map taped to the passenger side dashboard.

    https://www.vwvortex.com/news/watch-scirocco-flips-three-times-losing-nurburgring/

    Massive understeer with the issue manifesting itself in first turn on the video.  


    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3 (2017)

    That will buff right out. Next time she will drive with a map. Beginner mistake 


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    2017 991.2 Carrera 4 GTS | GT Silver Metallic - The GT3 Killah!
    2013 Audi S3 | Glacier White


    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3 (2017)

    That is actually a good way to dissipate the force of the impact. Map not required for that turn. 


    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3 (2017)

    These public track days are crazy. indecision..

    Lady drivers no angry ...Probably checking out Instagram...indecision....

    Insurance pay out,, maybe not..You take yu chances...


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    throt

    "I Have Done It!".

    991 GT3 pick up in October 2014.

    991 GT3.2 pick up April/May 2018. ( Hairy Chest Spec ).

    Vauxhall Zafira 1.6 Exclusive pick up June 2013. ( Shit Box )

    Rennteam Hairy Chest Advisor.


    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3 (2017)

    Do EU insurers pay collision claims that occur on a track? In the US they don't. You need to buy special insurance which come with high deductibles and often with stated values.


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3 (2017)

    nberry:

    Do EU insurers pay collision claims that occur on a track? In the US they don't. You need to buy special insurance which come with high deductibles and often with stated values.

    In France, they have to cover you but most of the time, they ask you to limit your number of tracks by hand shake agreement or put a note at the bottom of the contract to avoid coverage on track. yearly cover of GT car is cheap in France, at least compared to almost 4x more here in UAE with 0 coverage on track.Smiley


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    GT Lover, Porsche fan

    991.2 GT3 manual, 991 GT3 2014(sold)

    Cayenne GTS 2014


    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3 (2017)

    Belgium insurance: no, the track isn’t considered a public road, you need an extra insurance if you want to be covered on a trackday.


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3 (2017)

    nberry:

    Do EU insurers pay collision claims that occur on a track? In the US they don't. You need to buy special insurance which come with high deductibles and often with stated values.

    I think some German insurance companies do cover on Tourist Days on Ring (since part of German highway when not a private track day), but it is variable (some don't, afaik).

    I bought a $6k annual policy for my GT3 on the track.  It is very expensive, but seems cheaper the more track days you attend Smiley.

    Best track insurance is the Free one that comes with Porsche Euro Delivery (for US customers) - only 1k EUR deductible for all road and track use across all of Europe for 16 days (note: RC has entered the record that he disagrees with this.  Only way to know for sure is to crash and find out, but I was not a good enough team player to do it Smiley).

     


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3 (2017)

    Grant:

    I think some German insurance companies do cover on Tourist Days on Ring (since part of German highway when not a private track day), but it is variable (some don't, afaik).

    Yes, depends on the insurance company. Some do cover also trackdays (basically everything except it's a real race format).

    The map reminds me of a funny experience years ago when I participated in a track event offering to do your own laps in a F1 car. One of the participants was crawling around the track like in a bobby car. When the guy was returning to the pits the instructor asked what the problem was. The guy pointed on the little map on his knees: "I was just trying to follow the lines as shown on the map" Smiley


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3 (2017)

    throt:

    These public track days are crazy. indecision..

    Lady drivers no angry ...Probably checking out Instagram...indecision....

    Insurance pay out,, maybe not..You take yu chances...

    There are pretty good lady drivers out there but this one just made some rookie mistakes.

    First "warning shot" didn't slow her down, so she had it coming, sorry to say that. Smiley


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991.2 Carrera GTS Cabriolet (2018), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mercedes E63 S AMG Edition 1 (2018), Mini JCW (2015)


    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3 (2017)

    RC:
    throt:

    These public track days are crazy. indecision..

    Lady drivers no angry ...Probably checking out Instagram...indecision....

    Insurance pay out,, maybe not..You take yu chances...

    There are pretty good lady drivers out there but this one just made some rookie mistakes.

    First "warning shot" didn't slow her down, so she had it coming, sorry to say that. Smiley

    She didn’t slow up.. Or over estimated the capabilities of her car...

    Good example of why it’s risky to use a public track. Smiley Smiley..


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    throt

    "I Have Done It!".

    991 GT3 pick up in October 2014.

    991 GT3.2 pick up April/May 2018. ( Hairy Chest Spec ).

    Vauxhall Zafira 1.6 Exclusive pick up June 2013. ( Shit Box )

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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3 (2017)

    Slightly off topic question. Any recommendations on A Porsche dealer somewhere outside but accessible from London and someone that will value business. I find the London dealers are so used to business walking though the door they don’t even try so I am considering whether I should try a dealer further afield. I bought a brand new Macan Turbo in 16 and even got a letter of intent from Porsche West London for the GT3.2 , but have either been ignored or laughed at since then. I am happy to buy a new Cayenne Turbo (as the only strong dislike for the Macan is the V6) but really want someone who will value my business (not flipping) and seriously consider “giving” me an allocation. Any recommendations welcome? In the family we started with a 996 4S, had a 991S new in dubai, and currently have a 993 4S sitting in the garage next to the Macan, so there is some brand loyalty here...

     


    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3 (2017)

    996FourEss:

    Slightly off topic question. Any recommendations on A Porsche dealer somewhere outside but accessible from London and someone that will value business. I find the London dealers are so used to business walking though the door they don’t even try so I am considering whether I should try a dealer further afield. I bought a brand new Macan Turbo in 16 and even got a letter of intent from Porsche West London for the GT3.2 , but have either been ignored or laughed at since then. I am happy to buy a new Cayenne Turbo (as the only strong dislike for the Macan is the V6) but really want someone who will value my business (not flipping) and seriously consider “giving” me an allocation. Any recommendations welcome? In the family we started with a 996 4S, had a 991S new in dubai, and currently have a 993 4S sitting in the garage next to the Macan, so there is some brand loyalty here...

     

    unfortunately, RHD cars is a big mess, there is not enough cars and dealers are happy to maximize the profit they can do with them. I heard a touring is minimum a 40 grands premium in UK...LOL

    here they can't fulfill the book...some cars can still be configured for production before the end of the year Smiley

    PAG really needs to level up the game here, most of the cars go to flippers first then you need to beg for one and so on...they are on the way to lose the base customer and next downturn in economy will show again RS 4.0L on discount to move out of showroom.


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    991.2 GT3 manual, 991 GT3 2014(sold)

    Cayenne GTS 2014


    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3 (2017)

    Higher, UK Touring were up for 220k (GBP, yes)..no ...


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    throt

    "I Have Done It!".

    991 GT3 pick up in October 2014.

    991 GT3.2 pick up April/May 2018. ( Hairy Chest Spec ).

    Vauxhall Zafira 1.6 Exclusive pick up June 2013. ( Shit Box )

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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3 (2017)

    throt:

    Higher, UK Touring were up for 220k (GBP, yes)..no ...

    that is like 70k markup?


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    GT Lover, Porsche fan

    991.2 GT3 manual, 991 GT3 2014(sold)

    Cayenne GTS 2014


    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3 (2017)

    the-missile:
    throt:

    Higher, UK Touring were up for 220k (GBP, yes)..no ...

    that is like 70k markup?

    A expensive spec Touring would have a list price of 135k, so 85k markup. Smiley..

    Not sure what they have shifted for though. Plenty of winged GT3’s on the market now, not many Touring.

    Many here think the GT3 bubble is about to burst..Why so many on the used market?, have no clue. I love mine regardless of worth..


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    throt

    "I Have Done It!".

    991 GT3 pick up in October 2014.

    991 GT3.2 pick up April/May 2018. ( Hairy Chest Spec ).

    Vauxhall Zafira 1.6 Exclusive pick up June 2013. ( Shit Box )

    Rennteam Hairy Chest Advisor.


    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3 (2017)

    throt:
    the-missile:
    throt:

    Higher, UK Touring were up for 220k (GBP, yes)..no ...

    that is like 70k markup?

    A expensive spec Touring would have a list price of 135k, so 85k markup. Smiley..

    Not sure what they have shifted for though. Plenty of winged GT3’s on the market now, not many Touring.

    Many here think the GT3 bubble is about to burst..Why so many on the used market?, have no clue. I love mine regardless of worth..

    plenty of winged with or without manual?

    In france, the take rate is bout 90-10 with 10 for manual. out of these 10, probably half/half for winged and castrated.

    in UAE it is about the same...winged will be less than touring though

    this time is actually 3 cars possible Smiley


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    GT Lover, Porsche fan

    991.2 GT3 manual, 991 GT3 2014(sold)

    Cayenne GTS 2014


    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3 (2017)

    I really have not looked deep in to the winged with manual or PDK. I presume, by reading too, a lot more PDK on the market as the PDK was the higher volume seller.

    i reckon a winged PDK CS will fetch around 165k at the moment at a OPC. Car market has really calmed down here now. Many think the GT3 circus is coming to an end. No difference for me though, mines a keeper..kiss..


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    throt

    "I Have Done It!".

    991 GT3 pick up in October 2014.

    991 GT3.2 pick up April/May 2018. ( Hairy Chest Spec ).

    Vauxhall Zafira 1.6 Exclusive pick up June 2013. ( Shit Box )

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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3 (2017)

    Outside London, I've purchased from Hatfield (7 cars) , Cambridge (2 cars) & Solihull (1 used) - I was still unable to secure a gen2 GT3. I won't buy a new P car again from any of them. Sadly, I get a better reception from Volvo than Porsche. 


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3 (2017)

    If the 992 GT3 is NA, prices of regular winged 991.1 and 991.2 GT3 will come down in the short term.  20 years from now it will be a different story.    


     
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