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    Re: Cayman GT4

    bluelines:
    RC:

    Dammit...all that argueing with Bluelines for nothing. Smiley

    Dammit... what an anti-climax. Well, at least I won the argument.

     

    it's been an entertaining day at Rennteam today, thanks!  Smiley


    Re: Cayman GT4

    bluelines:
    RC:

    Dammit...all that argueing with Bluelines for nothing. Smiley

    Dammit... what an anti-climax. Well, at least I won the argument.

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    Re: Cayman GT4

    RC:
    It was about time and the car is even "affordable". If I'd live in the US, I'd actually take this opportunity to be able to drive in a semi-professional class with all the official support and all, sounds like an amazing offer for those who want a bit more than just your usual casual track racing fun. Smiley

    Beyond the entry price, the things that make this car "affordable" to race are the unstressed motor (lower redline) which should last longer, the relatively inexpensive cost to replace the motor (a fraction of the cost to rebuild a Metzger) and the PDK gearbox instead of true sequential (costs over $7k per season to maintain).

    Also because the car is slower than a GT3 Cup, the identical brakes will last longer (pads and rotors).


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    Re: Cayman GT4

    Kobalt:
    bluelines:
    RC:

    Dammit...all that argueing with Bluelines for nothing. Smiley

    Dammit... what an anti-climax. Well, at least I won the argument.

    it's been an entertaining day at Renneam today, thanks!  Smiley

    Äsch, det var så lite så...

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    Re: Cayman GT4

    Why would anyone (money aside) would want to drive a street legal car on a track unless you just do a couple of days a year? Safety will be much higher in the clubsport, street legal cars just have too many compromises to do serious track work...


    Re: Cayman GT4

    SciFrog:

    Why would anyone (money aside) would want to drive a street legal car on a track unless you just do a couple of days a year? Safety will be much higher in the clubsport, street legal cars just have too many compromises to do serious track work...

    I can think of a few reasons:

    1.  I live in the city with barely enough parking room for my current cars (not to mention a big truck and trailer)

    2.  I don't have the budget for buying a truck & trailer and all the fees that go along (tax/license/insurance/maintenance)

    3.  I want to be able to drive any new sports car that I buy on the Nurburgring (and they require street legal cars there, unless official race event - very few of these per year)

    4.  I like to be able to drive my sports cars in the mountains

    5.  I like to be able to drive my track car to the shop for repair or maintenance work (instead of towing it there)

    6.  There is no warranty on a race car (new Porsches have 4 year warranty and it applies on the track)

    7.  Buying a street legal car w/ Euro Delivery includes insurance for accidents that happen on roads and tracks (can extend for up to 6 months)


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    Re: Cayman GT4

    All your points are valid but they all relate to saving money. For example I never bring my sport cars to the dealer, they come and pick them up. Since you don't live close to the NBR, it wouldn't be for more than a couple of days a year...


    Re: Cayman GT4

    SciFrog:

    All your points are valid but they all relate to saving money. For example I never bring my sport cars to the dealer, they come and pick them up. Since you don't live close to the NBR, it wouldn't be for more than a couple of days a year...

    If budget wasn't a concern, I would race a 1962 Ferrari 250 GTO instead (and these are street legal).  I once saw a race at Laguna Seca with 12 of these at once driving 10/10ths (Monterey Historics).  Pretty crazy, but fun...


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    Re: Cayman GT4

    SciFrog:

    All your points are valid but they all relate to saving money. For example I never bring my sport cars to the dealer, they come and pick them up. Since you don't live close to the NBR, it wouldn't be for more than a couple of days a year...

    First you ask "Why would anyone....", then you talk about you?   Smiley


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    Re: Cayman GT4

    bluelines:
    RC:

    Dammit...all that argueing with Bluelines for nothing. Smiley

    Dammit... what an anti-climax. Well, at least I won the argument.

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    I made you guys exercise your brains Smiley

     


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    Re: Cayman GT4

    fritz:
    SciFrog:

    All your points are valid but they all relate to saving money. For example I never bring my sport cars to the dealer, they come and pick them up. Since you don't live close to the NBR, it wouldn't be for more than a couple of days a year...

    First you ask "Why would anyone....", then you talk about you?   Smiley

    Dealers come pick up at your house Porsches and likes in the USA, no need to go to the dealer.

    Same thing, but better?


    Re: Cayman GT4

    bluelines:
    Kobalt:

    As we say in Sweden: Mums!

    Those brakes!

    Smiley

    Dubbelmums! Smiley

    Eller "mums-mums" Smiley


    Re: Cayman GT4

    SciFrog:

    All your points are valid but they all relate to saving money. For example I never bring my sport cars to the dealer, they come and pick them up. Since you don't live close to the NBR, it wouldn't be for more than a couple of days a year...

    I know a couple of track addicts who have rented a garage close to the Nordschleife, where they are keeping their cars when they don't need them. Some of these locations also seem to offer some sort of maintenance/setup service and whatnot, quite clever. Then, there are others who just leave their wheels for the track close to the Nordschleife and drive back home on their OEM wheels. Then, there are some who hire a transport service for their car from their home to the Nordschleife and back home. Different people, different methods but all of them cost extra money, nothing is for free.


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    Re: Cayman GT4

    The first day back from my month-long European vacation, I asked my boss whether I could work remotely for part of 2016 (was thinking of renting a place close to the Ring).  She didn't say no, but was not too enthusiastic about the possibility surprise


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    Re: Cayman GT4

    remote working tends not to be on different continents indecision


    Re: Cayman GT4

    Going back on topic again, I've heard of some additional UK production slots being allocated for June-16 build now, so it looks like the production run could be longer than previously expected. yes


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    Re: Cayman GT4

    As predicted... Porsche should and will milk this all the way... They priced the car too low. One way to correct it is to build as many as they can.


    Re: Cayman GT4

    SciFrog:

    As predicted... Porsche should and will milk this all the way... They priced the car too low. One way to correct it is to build as many as they can.

    That reminds me of the old joke, "We're losing money on every unit sold, but we'll make it up in volume" Smiley


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    Re: Cayman GT4

    sfo:

    remote working tends not to be on different continents indecision

    Shouldn't really matter (aside from time change of 8 hours).  I'd get to sleep really late Smiley


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    Re: Cayman GT4

    I've been told by a source who has been 100% correct so far that a street legal GT4 with PDK is coming in 2016 and that's a sure thing. Whether it will be an RS-version or not I don't know.


    Re: Cayman GT4

    Grant:
    SciFrog:

    As predicted... Porsche should and will milk this all the way... They priced the car too low. One way to correct it is to build as many as they can.

    That reminds me of the old joke, "We're losing money on every unit sold, but we'll make it up in volume" Smiley

    The funny thing is, why do they want the public to know they're losing money on every "X" car (CGT / 959 / 918...) they had to assemble ? shouldn't they just shut down their doors and stop losing more money Smiley

    Parts & Service dept are there to make up for all their bs stories through magazines and articles, they even screw you harder if they lay a finger on getting your tires off to check the brakes or flush required (Ferrari & Lambo never went that low) P plays dirty when it comes to sucking the last cent out of your pocket.

    But I still do love their cars with manuals Smiley

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSx-HhaM1WE


    Re: Cayman GT4

    Who said they loose money on GT4? Surely they make plenty, but with lower margins than other models...


    Re: Cayman GT4

    I was just kidding.  They definitely make money on them...


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    Re: Cayman GT4

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    1448143139082image.jpgBjoernB:

    RC - stop pretending to know everything and learn :  if you're strapped in a harness ur upperbody does not move or very Little  - in a accident you're neck overstretches - hence the Invention of HANS (HeadandNeckSupport) to keep you're head in Position so you don't break it like Ratzenberger in Formula 1 or have a huge Whip-lash  - to call this BS disqualifies you badly.....mail

    A couple of months ago I was hit by a  Honda trying to cross at right angles to highway traffic, instant collision , no braking  by me, result diagnosis severe whiplash. Airbags deployed, M4  written off. Since thought often of a better restraint system for road use, Conclusion, size matters, no sub compact, the M4 had reassuring and amazing conntrolled compression of front end, cabin frame impressive, both doors functioned, I walked out, dazed but intact. My speed was only 50mph, I think another 25mph would have resulted in substantial neck injury.

     

     

     


    Re: Cayman GT4

    Ouch!  Glad you're mostly ok.


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    Re: Cayman GT4

    Grant:

    Ouch!  Glad you're mostly ok.

    +1 

    Wish you a speedy recovery.


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    2014 991 Carrera 4S | Dark Blue Metallic | PDK | Sport Chrono | SPASM


    Re: Cayman GT4

    Thanks, I just thought the pictures were appropriate, a road adaptation of the Hans device was something that interested me.

     


    Re: Cayman GT4

    Glad you are OK. In such car accidents, the head restraint and the correct position is essential. Many people still think that the head restraint is a comfort feature to rest your head on Smiley but in reality, it is actually, together with the safety belt, the most effective way to avoid or lessen neck injury from impact or that well known whiplash. A HANS device would also require a proper seat and helmet, so not sure how such a device for a normal car could look alike.


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    Re: Cayman GT4

    Kobalt:

    GT4 Trophy:

     

    http://www.manthey-racing.de/nextshopcms/show.asp?lang=de&e1=221&ssid=1&mdocid=329&newsid=477

    https://www.facebook.com/mantheyracing/posts/873281909454160

    I need to participate in that! Smiley


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