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    R&T: To the Power of 12 - Road Test

    911 Turbo S vs Corvette Z06 vs Audi R8 5.2 vs Aston Martin V12 Vantage

    Porsche 911 Turbo S - 530hp

    Mazda Raceway Laguna Seca Lap Time: 1:40.11

    Chevrolet Corvette Z06 - 505hp

    Mazda Raceway Laguna Seca Lap Time: 1:39.29

    Audi R8 5.2 FSI - 525hp

    Mazda Raceway Laguna Seca Lap Time: 1:40.20

    Aston Martin V12 Vantage - 510hp

    Mazda Raceway Laguna Seca Lap Time: 1:43.04

    Our Choices Are...

    Porsche 911 Turbo S

    The Porsche 911 Turbo S has all the latest and greatest technology such as all-wheel drive with torque vectoring, PDK twin-clutch transmission, variable valve timing, and a direct-injected twin-turbo flat-6 powerplant rated at 530 bhp and 516 lb.-ft. of torque. Zero to 60 mph acceleration? In 2.6 seconds...that’s right, matching the $1 million 1001-bhp Bugatti Veyron’s incredible feat. While the Turbo S can’t match the Veyron for sheer speed, it will still turn in record-breaking stopping distances from 80–0 mph—the best Road & Track has ever seen—and supercar-level handling numbers comparable to or better than those of the Ferrari Enzo or even Porsche’s own Carrera GT.

    And normally this is the point where excuses would come in about how this car is too pricey, and that it’s not practical to own. To drive the point home even further, this unassuming, familiar 911-bodied Turbo S rocket ship can do it all, with two more seats in the back to take your kids along for the thrill ride. All this is done at a fraction of the cost of the Bugatti, and still coming in as the second least expensive in our gathering of impressive sports cars. It can be a speed demon on the track, or docile enough to take on a weekend getaway or to the local store. I’ll take one now!

    Chevrolet Corvette Z06

    The Corvette hides none of its faults. The Z06 doesn’t trick you into thinking it’s a glamorous high-class ride, then pull the rug out from under you. It does the opposite: It hides its carbon fiber beneath paint and the LS7 engine doesn’t get the window treatment from the ZR1.

    But then you don’t drive the Z06 for flash, contrary to stereotypes. You should drive a Z06 because when you hit that middle pedal, the carbon-ceramic brakes exert repeatable perform*ance corner after corner. Its suspension and wheel/tire package enable incredible g-loading through the apex, and then with a squeeze of the throttle you’re rocketing through the exit and onto the straight.

    The car flat delivers.

    Don’t get me wrong, it’s not the best street car here. The seats are the main culprit behind that. They seem to transfer heat from the center tunnel very effectively, like the seat heaters are always on. They also don’t have very much lateral support.

    At least a potential remedy is just a few mouse clicks and a credit card number away. Even after some modifications, it would still be the lowest priced entrant in this group. If outright performance is your objective, how can you not pick it?

    Audi R8 5.2 FSI

    Incredible how close this group of cars compares, given their eclectic approaches toward a common goal of pure driving enjoyment. But for me, the choice is clear. The Audi R8 brings me all I could want from this group in one package: mid-engine weight distribution, excellent handling dynamics, aggressive contemporary styling, a manual transmission and a snarling V-10 engine.

    Considering that the R8 in this test was outfitted with standard tires and brakes compared to the performance-option items on the competitors, the closeness of the results only highlights the ability of the R8 as an overall performer. The instantly familiar roomy cockpit is the perfect place to command this car with inherent confidence in all conditions. The R8 offers plenty of communication as it approaches its limits and allows the driver a lot of fun on the track with lively mid-corner rotational response that’s tempered by all-wheel-drive traction on power through the apex. Accelerating away from every corner accompanied by the visceral wail of the V-10 is not only supremely enjoyable, it’s totally addictive.

    Couple all that with bold styling that is truly unique and you’ve got something that captivates the eyes of onlookers and endlessly rewards its driver.

    This car’s for me!

    Aston Martin V12 Vantage

    Proper. Like an English professor wearing a tweed jacket. The Vantage sounds and drives like it looks—sublime. Of this bunch it’s the one the others are trying to emulate...not necessarily in performance, but in character. It’s the only proper V-12 GT here. Each of the other cars needs more of something: displacement, turbochargers or all-wheel drive to beat its lofty performance. But none deliver on the visual promise of pleasure, performance and elegance like the Aston.

    When it comes to V-12 sports cars, it’s an exclusive and expensive club, for a reason. The V-12 is mechanically pure and in the Aston drives a buttery slick 6-speed transaxle wrapped around an aggressive limited-slip differential. It is a package that has tantalized us for decades and is typically reserved for the rarest of GT cars. That it’s stuffed into the little Vantage is an outstanding trick that tickles my fancy, whether ogling the car from afar or settling into its properly sporting seats.

    From behind the Alcantara-wrapped steering wheel it becomes clear that man controls machine, and the Aston design philosophy is to make the machine a glorious tool to wield. An experience I’d like to enjoy every day.

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    Re: R&T: To the Power of 12 - Road Test

     0-60 in 2.6 !  

    Re: R&T: To the Power of 12 - Road Test

    That 997 is just insanely quick with the PDK/TC/whatever the hell it uses.

    Very solid results for the R8 given how much slower it is than the ZR1 and 997. I'll take the R8 all day.

    Re: R&T: To the Power of 12 - Road Test

     I don't believe the turbo s can be slower around the track than the Z06, considering that the TurboS has all the newest tech including PDK and is more powerfull than the Z06.

    Re: R&T: To the Power of 12 - Road Test


     I don't believe the turbo s can be slower around the track than the Z06, considering that the TurboS has all the newest tech including PDK and is more powerfull than the Z06.

    Must be the driver, cause the turbo is faster too Smiley


    Re: R&T: To the Power of 12 - Road Test

    Latest results from the C&D Lightning Lap...(yes I am a Corvette racer, but not a troller).  To note last year the ZR1 was 1.7 seconds faster than this years Z06 which matches the Superleggra, but the Viper ACR and Mosler still hold the record.  I am suprised to see the Z06 beat the GT3RS by 2.4 seconds which is a large difference, especially given this years RS has 450hp, which brings the HP gap closer to the Z06 505.  Also good showing by the Mustang and CTS-V.

    Re: R&T: To the Power of 12 - Road Test

    (1) I wonder why the GT-R wasn't in this test

    (2) Why are they using the Z06 and not the ZR-1?

    (3) At over $60K less, I'm more impressed with the Z06 performance than I am with the 911's.

    For the price of a 911, I can get a Z06 for the summer and have enough left for a used Cayenne Turbo for the Winter. :D



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