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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    Some update on GT3 ordering: Right now, you can order PDK only, at least in Germany. Manual orders will be possible starting June or so... Dealers (Germany) already have lots of orders, first deliveries (when ordered now) could be delayed after Oct./Nov., just so you know.


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet (2015), Porsche Cayenne S Diesel (2017), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mini JCW (2015)


    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    RC:

    Carlos, would you get the new GT3 is the Touring Package includes backseats? Just curious.

    That would be "the" car IMO but honestly thinking with my brain I'm not sure if I could justify the trade in hit for the upgrade now, the 992 is just around the corner and I really really like the GTS so the upgrade is relative for street driving, and the sound of the GTS is... if it were earlier in the life cycle I'd be more inclined, and if this was back when I was deciding on the GTS I would choose a GT3 with back seats and no wing over the GTS for sure (as long as the engine and PDK and maintenance was OK with the big mileage I put on my 911's, would be able to fit non cup tires, etc). 


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    I am seriously thinking of getting the new GT3 if my wife doesn't want the GTS Cab (she always said she wants it but she isn't sure anymore because she always needs space for her stuff) but she cannot decide and I cannot wait. yes Not easy. Spring/summer is coming and if I take away "her" cab, she will kill me. angry


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    RC:

    I am seriously thinking of getting the new GT3 if my wife doesn't want the GTS Cab

    Hang on, bud. You told us that you have grown out of 911's......Smiley.....


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    991 GT3 pick up in October 2014.

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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    throt:
    RC:

    I am seriously thinking of getting the new GT3 if my wife doesn't want the GTS Cab

    Hang on, bud. You told us that you have grown out of 911's......Smiley.....

    Smiley


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    throt:
    RC:

    I am seriously thinking of getting the new GT3 if my wife doesn't want the GTS Cab

    Hang on, bud. You told us that you have grown out of 911's......Smiley.....

    The R8 stays...you don't really think I would get rid of this car? Smiley 

    I was just thinking: I was planning to keep the GTS Cab because it is the last n/a 911 Carrera and in it's most powerful version. Since the 991.2 GT3 could be the last n/a GT3 Smiley, it would be a keeper as well. My dealer is looking for a 991.1 GTS Cab, so this could be a chance but I'm not sure. I enjoy my R8 way too much and the GT3 would be a second toy and a car my wife could/would not use.

    In the end, I think I am going to pass but the moment my wife said she isn't sure about the GTS cab, I was already picturing another toy for me. Smiley Smiley Yes, I am too selfish...when it comes to cars. Smiley Smiley

    Oh boy...capitalism sucks...too many choices. Smiley Smiley


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    Kobalt:
    Porker:

    Is there a single mass flywheel for the manual? I thought I heard in the interview both gearboxes will have dual mass flywheel?

     

    No. AP suggests not to change flywheel: Will destroy engine.

    Source:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHFSsdqLntw&t=2s

    So the engine is different to the 911 R? As that one has the option of a single mass?


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    RC:

    I am seriously thinking of getting the new GT3 if my wife doesn't want the GTS Cab (she always said she wants it but she isn't sure anymore because she always needs space for her stuff) but she cannot decide and I cannot wait. yes Not easy. Spring/summer is coming and if I take away "her" cab, she will kill me. angry

    You know that deep inside you have already decided and your subconscious is past that decision and is now working on how to "sell it" to your wife and get away with it Smiley Smiley

    Joking aside, if you are keeping the R8 I'm not sure how changing the GTS Cab for a GT3 Touring will be that worth it, they are a bit different cars the GTS Cab and a GT3 Coupe, you will like it more but then again for those thrills you have the R8, and your wife is not going to be happy with the GT3 Coupe, basically she looses the Cab and you gain yet another toy. If you can pull it off then OK but if not... well you know Smiley


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    2017 Porsche 911 GT3 video selection...

    "The new 911 GT3 – Born in Flacht..."

    Video Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrjR7P3Y-lw

    "The new 911 GT3. Features..."

    Video Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4PB-BDOTe0

    "PREVIEW: Porsche 911 GT3 – 493bhp 4.0-litre and a manual 'box..."

    Video Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHFSsdqLntw

    "New Porsche 911 GT3 exclusive. Welcome back manual GT3..."

    Video Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIxSau8czNk

    "2017 Porsche 911 GT3 (991.2): Andreas Preuninger erklärt den neuen GT3!"

    Video Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCVMLTnhHiU

    "New Porsche 911 GT3 Facelift 991 2017 Soundcheck vs 996 GT3 sport auto..."

    Video Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VY5bcJfAaiw

    "Porsche 911 GT3 Facelift (2017) - Comeback der Handschaltung - Details..."

    Video Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVvoYx5_TD0

    "2018 Porsche 911 GT3: 500 Horses, Manual Gears, 4.0-litres. THEY LISTENED!"

    Video Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8alonixpEUA

    "2017 Porsche 911 GT3 (Driving)"

    Video Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XG4xlpLKqNQ

    Smiley Smiley Smiley


    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    Porker:
    Kobalt:
    Porker:

    Is there a single mass flywheel for the manual? I thought I heard in the interview both gearboxes will have dual mass flywheel?

     

    No. AP suggests not to change flywheel: Will destroy engine.

    Source:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHFSsdqLntw&t=2s

    So the engine is different to the 911 R? As that one has the option of a single mass?

    Cup engine...basically. Yes, totally different. No single mass option (not even planned) and not recommended.


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    Carlos from Spain:
    RC:

    I am seriously thinking of getting the new GT3 if my wife doesn't want the GTS Cab (she always said she wants it but she isn't sure anymore because she always needs space for her stuff) but she cannot decide and I cannot wait. yes Not easy. Spring/summer is coming and if I take away "her" cab, she will kill me. angry

    You know that deep inside you have already decided and your subconscious is past that decision and is now working on how to "sell it" to your wife and get away with it Smiley Smiley

    Smiley Smiley Not that easy. It is "our" cabriolet and my wife won't take this lightly, she loves to drive open in the spring/summer. 

    Joking aside, if you are keeping the R8 I'm not sure how changing the GTS Cab for a GT3 Touring will be that worth it, they are a bit different cars the GTS Cab and a GT3 Coupe, you will like it more but then again for those thrills you have the R8, and your wife is not going to be happy with the GT3 Coupe, basically she looses the Cab and you gain yet another toy. If you can pull it off then OK but if not... well you know Smiley

    I know, the GT3 would be a second toy and I can barely drive the R8, so where would the GT3 fit in? Smiley

    Probably just a first reaction to the fantastic specs of the new GT3...it will pass. I try to tell myself that the moment my wife takes over the GTS Cab or doesn't want it, I will have the chance to switch my R8 for the R8 facelift or the rumored upcoming R8 GT. Makes more sense in my situation. Smiley


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet (2015), Porsche Cayenne S Diesel (2017), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mini JCW (2015)


    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    Car is absolutely gorgeous, but what is Flacht? A village? smiley


    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    RC:
    Smiley Smiley Not that easy. It is "our" cabriolet and my wife won't take this lightly, she loves to drive open in the spring/summer. 

     

     

     

    Christian, your big and the Mrs is small, you have the hairy chest and she does not ( hopefully Smiley )..

    Just go and order the damn car Smiley....


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    "I Have Done It!".

    991 GT3 pick up in October 2014.

    Rennteam Hairy Chest Advisor.


    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    Boyko23:

    Car is absolutely gorgeous, but what is Flacht? A village? smiley

    It`s a neighboring village to Weissach.  The Porsche R&D building is located on the Weissach side whilst  the Porsche Motorsport building on the Flacht side . A famous sticker "Made in Flacht" was placed on the 1998 winning Le Mans GT1 , below the left tailight. 


    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    I like the red stripe on the wheels. But it's becoming commonplace, so may reconsider... 

    (Honda Civic R below)

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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    Porker:
     

    So the engine is different to the 911 R? As that one has the option of a single mass?

    Yes, its got different crankshaft, cylinder liners, pistons, heads etc.

    No hydrailic lifters. 

    Take alook at the DriveTribe video. really good. Posted in previous post.

     


    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    Kobalt:
    Porker:
     

    So the engine is different to the 911 R? As that one has the option of a single mass?

    Yes, its got different crankshaft, cylinder liners, pistons, heads etc.

    No hydrailic lifters. 

    Take alook at the DriveTribe video. really good. Posted in previous post.

     

    I had seen the video indeed, just thought the R had already received that engine. Apparently not.

    Impressive piece of kit.


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    Porker:
    Impressive piece of kit.

    + 1  And now it is the same engine as in the Cup , except for the  exhaust  


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    Gnil:
    Porker:
    Impressive piece of kit.

    + 1  And now it is the same engine as in the Cup , except for the  exhaust  


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    Indeed a very special GT3.. Guys are being told NO to get an allocation already here in the UK. My fingers are crossed crossed and crossed. Should know shortly whether i am in or OUT Smiley.....

    If I am out it could be the end of my Rennteam journey. So no more valuable post from me Smiley.....

    Smiley Smiley....


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    "I Have Done It!".

    991 GT3 pick up in October 2014.

    Rennteam Hairy Chest Advisor.


    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    Gnil:
    + 1  And now it is the same engine as in the Cup , except for the  exhaust  


    Didn't AP say something like "it is virtually the same engine as the cup"?

    Do we actually know what differences there is between the two engines?

    The Cup's engine needs a rebuild after 100 hours and the GT3 after 300.000 km's?

    All these questions...   


    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    throt:
     

    Indeed a very special GT3.. Guys are being told NO to get an allocation already here in the UK. My fingers are crossed crossed and crossed. Should know shortly whether i am in or OUT Smiley.....

    If I am out it could be the end of my Rennteam journey. So no more valuable post from me Smiley.....

    Smiley Smiley....

    Is the Volvo forum as entertaining ? ..na, I bet you will stay and just write : I didn't get it  

    I hope you get one Smiley


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    m4ever:
    Boyko23:

    Car is absolutely gorgeous, but what is Flacht? A village? smiley

    It`s a neighboring village to Weissach.  The Porsche R&D building is located on the Weissach side whilst  the Porsche Motorsport building on the Flacht side . A famous sticker "Made in Flacht" was placed on the 1998 winning Le Mans GT1 , below the left tailight. 

    Pic of GT1-98 Smiley + first used on the left side of GT1-97 above the left taillight.

    Blueflame

    2017-03made in Flacht.jpg


    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    Gnil:
    throt:
     

    Indeed a very special GT3.. Guys are being told NO to get an allocation already here in the UK. My fingers are crossed crossed and crossed. Should know shortly whether i am in or OUT Smiley.....

    If I am out it could be the end of my Rennteam journey. So no more valuable post from me Smiley.....

    Smiley Smiley....

    Is the Volvo forum as entertaining ? ..na, I bet you will stay and just write : I didn't get it  

    I hope you get one Smiley

    Hahahaha, hope so to. Its just so sold out. I want a RS eventually. Really hope they do a .2RS, I think they will, imo Smiley.. 


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    991 GT3 pick up in October 2014.

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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    Kobalt:

    Didn't AP say something like "it is virtually the same engine as the cup"?

    Do we actually know what differences there is between the two engines?

    The Cup's engine needs a rebuild after 100 hours and the GT3 after 300.000 km's?

    All these questions...   

    There are probably some minor differences . 

    Here are the technical info of the Cup 

    911 GT3 Cup - Vehicle description.pdf


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    STG at RL has compiled a useful list of media links for the 991.2 GT3

    Worth sharing.


    DRIVETRIBE VIDEO with Andreas Preuninger:

    https://youtu.be/EHFSsdqLntw

    EVO VIDEO:

    https://youtu.be/dIxSau8czNk

    PORSCHE VIDEOS:

    https://youtu.be/A4PB-BDOTe0

    https://youtu.be/jrjR7P3Y-lw

    Carfection VIDEO:

    https://youtu.be/8alonixpEUA

    DPCcars GT3 unveiling VIDEO:

    https://youtu.be/hSjHL9kEdxE

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    Stuttcars.com 991.2 GT3:

    https://www.stuttcars.com/porsche-mo...1/991/gt3/4.0/


    PistonHeads:

    http://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-g...eva-2017/35879

    PistonHeads with Andreas Preuninger:

    http://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-g...-new-gt3/35880

    Jalopnik (Stef Schrader) was the first to report the news via our advance posting of the official release. Has this thread linked to her article as well  

    http://jalopnik.com/2018-porsche-911...8-m-1793026259

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    Porsche USA microsite:

    http://www.porsche.com/microsite/911-gt3/usa.aspx#home

    EURO Configurator:

    http://cc.porsche.com/icc_euro/ccCal...fmodelstart%2f

    Canadian Configurator:

    http://cc.porsche.com/icc_euro/ccCal..._internet_us&h



    Porsche USA - The New 911 GT3:

    http://www.porsche.com/usa/models/91...modelselection

    USA Configurator: 

    http://cc.porsche.com/icc_pcna/ccCal...fmodelstart%2f


    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    the car seems a great package but the front spoiler is ugly, it might be ok on a ferrari but finds no balance with the 911. the engine stuff sounds good, if finally they managed to make it reliable after the GT3 gen 1 disaster. still i do not believe much of preuninger's excellent marketing talk, so i bet that it won't feel very different from gen 1. after having seen the GT3 i will definitely forsake the GT2RS (probably will get the same front end) and go for the 488speciale.


    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    Porker:

    I had seen the video indeed, just thought the R had already received that engine. Apparently not.

    Biggest indication is the R only revs to 8,500 (the electronic limiter actually intervenes before the 8,600 red zone on the tach)...


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    Gnil:
    Kobalt:

    Didn't AP say something like "it is virtually the same engine as the cup"?

    Do we actually know what differences there is between the two engines?

    The Cup's engine needs a rebuild after 100 hours and the GT3 after 300.000 km's?

    All these questions...   

    There are probably some minor differences . 

    Here are the technical info of the Cup 

    911 GT3 Cup - Vehicle description.pdf

    Also the Cup is used very differently . Nearly at red line all the time . 


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    The Cup must have different camshafts at minimum - it makes max power (485hp) at only 7,500 rpm with a redline of 8,500 rpm

    Road GT3 makes max power (500hp) at 8,250 rpm with a redline of 9,000 rpm

    Also, the Cup makes more torque (20 Nm more), even though it makes less power...

    I guess making the Cup run well at lower revs is a key to its longevity (991.1 Cup ran only 50 hours and new one 100 hours between tear-downs)


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    Great specs and great looking 911, even the rear wing looks good this time around, they nail it, and for the price, it´s the sports car to have. Did I hear 9k rpm Smiley Smiley


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