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    2011 European F1 Grand Prix in Valencia

    Time for another race weekend ...

    I wonder whether we are beginning to see RBR being gradually caught by McLaren and Ferrari ... their qualification performance is still far, far superior BUT, regarding race pace, I think the gap is not as vast as it may seem ...

    I think we are now in the territory where the car's dominance CAN be outweighed by driver performance ... and also track conditions, weather obviously help to affect the result ....

    I hope we see another thrilling race ... the last race was magnificent Smiley


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     I will be there


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    It was great seeing Button pass Vettel over the weekend for the win. I hope Hamilton cools down a little


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     I hope its as good as the last one. but without so many crashes, wouldn't want anyone to get hurt     

    Its good to see Ferrari and McL catch up with RBR, it will make for a more exciting fight at the front. 


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    I am also hoping that Hamilton cools down a little; but by a little I mean about  1/100th of 1%. For those of you who prefer simple fractions that would be about 1/10,000th. I am hoping to still see him take some bold risks, but actually get away with it this time. For a topper, I want to see him take the win; and preferably without starting from pole. Not really one of his biggest fans, but I just feel like it is due.

    To really complete my weekend, since it is Valencia; I want to see Alonso on the podium. Too much to ask??


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    Certainly not, both are possible


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    I saw Hamilton win in Shanghai this year, that was a great race. Don't get me wrong, I love a aggressive F1, but over taking Button during the last race could have waited a lap or two. Need my sleep, taking the Porsche G-force Porsche Driving school tomorrow

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    Enzo II:

     I will be there


    I will also be there !!! I just got a surprise present from girlfriend, she gave me tickets for the tribuna m7, i dont know if they are great, but i will be there the whole weekend with a friend of mine..... May be we could meet up before we see Alonso take the pole ???? Hehehe
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    Non-existent relationship between Webber and Vettel at RBR

    http://www.planetf1.com/driver/18227/6993696/Still-no-love-lost-at-Red-Bull


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    Is Rupert Murdoch stirring? The Sunday Times claimed that the BBC will axe F1 coverage ... I think this is nonsense.

    http://www.planetf1.com/news/3213/6997263/-Inaccurate-BBC-Axes-F1-Report-


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    This weekend, the big change is that the car's engine mapping cannot be changed between qualification and the race.

    Personally, I thought this was not possible anyway due to parc ferme conditions but, in any event, this is now the case.

    It is perhaps one of the reasons why RBR has been so strong in qualification but slightly less strong in the race.

    Anyway, let's see how much effect it has ...
     


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    Live Practice text commentary:

    http://live.autosport.com/commentary.php/id/364

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/9521183.stm


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    Friday Practice lap times

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/results/9418312.stm


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    Looks like it could be another close fight between RBR, McLaren and Ferrari ...


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    Hamilton will be pretty hungry for a good result after his last races screw-ups, and his teamate bringing in a fantastic win on top of it. I just hope that doesn't make him even more reckless on Sunday.

    I wonder whats the vide between the two McLaren drivers and their crews behind the doors after the last race 


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    Alonso put it all out for the home crowd! Good for him.

    Hamilton only put in second best during second practice. Not worried, still looking to him for the win.


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    The most boring race I have ever seen. The only good aspect was that the pit lane babes were better than usual  


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    Yawn.

    Boring follow-up to the last race.

    More choo-choo train, follow the leader racing.

    Vettle checks out within 5 laps. The rest of the race is a battle in the pits and who can save their tires the most. ZZZZZZzzzzzzz. I want my 2 hours back.


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    Heist:

    I want my 2 hours back.


    +1 Smiley


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    Valencia told us that the 2011 F1 season is as good as over. It's a conveyor belt to Vettel's 2nd title.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/andrewbenson/2011/06/sebasitan_vettel_dashes_hopes.html


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    Heist:

    I want my 2 hours back.


    +1 Smiley

     It was beyond dull. I almost fell asleep for a moment or two. 


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    It was dull because of RBR's (and Vettel's) superiority. Not their fault, of course

    Ferrari closes in on Red Bull Smiley We'll see.
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    Not as close as you think. Alonso was 2nd only because RBR muffed Webber's pit strategy and then he began having transmission problems in the lower gears.

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    reginos:

    Ferrari closes in on Red Bull Smiley We'll see.
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    I'm afraid its too late for anything, RBR is so far ahead that Vettel can go on vacation unitl Spa and still be leading the championship. He will likely be champion early october with 5 or so races to go still Smiley

     

    This year is a scratch on any type of competition, one car is so far ahead than the rest that even if they catch up later in the season, the gap it too great to even come close. Maybe next year cars will be more even and we will see some racing, but this year is over. We may see some specific races were it comes close, but hardly exiting when it won't matter in the championship. 

    And still this weekend wasn't close either IMO, Alonso did everything perfect, from his start to the finish, 110%, and still he had no chances of 1st place, and was lucky to get 2nd. Until a team can take qualifying from the RBR's it won't be close, since all RBR does is start first with open road ahead, whuile the rest fight and block each other, then open a gap with their car's pace on soft tires, and then just "manage" the gap till the checkered flag. Easy winning Smiley


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    Martin Brundle's view

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/formula_one/13927958.stm


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    easy_rider911:

    ..... The only good aspect was that the pit lane babes were better than usual  


    The babes of Valencia ...

    http://www.planetf1.com/f1-babes/photo-gallery/7005715/The-Lovely-Ladies-Of-Valencia


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    easy_rider911:
    easy_rider911:

    ..... The only good aspect was that the pit lane babes were better than usual  


    The babes of Valencia ...

    http://www.planetf1.com/f1-babes/photo-gallery/7005715/The-Lovely-Ladies-Of-Valencia

     Its important to hit the apex on every single one of those curves Smiley


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    Enmanuel:
     Its important to hit the apex on every single one of those curves Smiley


    Smiley


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