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    Re: Murcielago successor/replacement

    Wow thanks Rossi. This is a final camo, and we can see lots of details in those two shots. Looks like A LOT of Revention design clues indeed. Not sure if i appreciate it going more edgy... as long as they also introduce the Muira


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    indeed shifting is ancient technology - so is a fuel burning engine..  I happen to like both :) 


    Re: Murcielago successor/replacement

    Atzporsche:

    Wow thanks Rossi. This is a final camo, and we can see lots of details in those two shots. Looks like A LOT of Revention design clues indeed. Not sure if i appreciate it going more edgy... as long as they also introduce the Muira

     A Miura introduction would be great, that car was gorgeous and the concept that was out not so long ago was also a looker.


    Re: Murcielago successor/replacement

    There is NO Miura coming, accept it everyone. It's nothing more than wishful thinking. The Miura concept itself was never meant to ever be put into production. Stephen himself was quoted : Lamborghini does not do retro.

    Estoque is probably coming.


    Re: Murcielago successor/replacement

    New vid, not very exciting, but I post it here nevertheless. Smiley


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     all signs point to this car being pretty sweet. its a different design direction than competitors but I rather like it, its very bad ass 


    Re: Murcielago successor/replacement

     Looks a bit Testarossa from the side. I'm sure it will look very bad ass to quote Enmanuel 


    Re: Murcielago successor/replacement

    Niiiiiiiiiice Smiley


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    Re: Murcielago successor/replacement

    The owner of the car that spotted the mule sure is a fan of windowstickers!


    Re: Murcielago successor/replacement

    993Targa:

     Looks a bit Testarossa from the side. I'm sure it will look very bad ass to quote Enmanuel 

     

    That's what I thought, about the Testarossa side. Shape looks great, I like.  


    Re: Murcielago successor/replacement

    from lambopower.......

     

    There has been speculation in quantities around Lamborghini's products in the future. Especially around the new successor, replacing the Lamborghini Murcielago LP640-4. By the following information, we present more facts and details than ever before narrated.



    The commercial name of the new successor to be presented at the Geneva Fair in March 2011 is a closely guarded secret, as only two people so far are said to have knowledge of. The technical working title is LB83X.



    This time it started with a full white paper! To develop a new "top of the line" supercar for Lamborghini, takes place only every ten years. For this reason, it is especially exciting for Automobili Lamborghini, but also for us as an importer of Lamborghini to Sweden, the car will be received by the market.



    Lamborghini Stockholm and Torbjörn von Braun has been presented and reviewed the two very first pre-production cars and can attest that the objective of Lamborghini - to develop and sell the world's most desirable and accessible supercar, now likely to become reality soon. The market has never before been offered to such a serious advanced super sports car in a price range around three million Swedish kronor! It is during the introduction thus priced nearly 5 million less than worthy competitors' cars in the corresponding segment costs!

    The new car will be individual to take 50% of Lamborghinifabrikens resources and keep 200 people employed, to which most produce four cars a day on the new produktionslinans 11 workstations! Only 5-7 cars expected to arrive in Stockholm Lamborghini in 2011, which will be allocated to the Swedish, Norwegian and Finnish markets. Lamborghini begins delivering out the first market cars to the dealer immediately after the Geneva Fair in April. Then we can expect to see the first customer deliveries in May, June, July and August.



    After discussions and review of the car along with Fire & Design Director - Manfred Fitzgerald and R & D Director - Maurizio Reggiani, this is the Lamborghini Stockholm proud that this could be among the first in the world to report a deeper level of detail than any other surrounding Lamborghini's new supercar.



    Kolfibermonocoque, chassis and body construction

    The new car is based around an advanced digitally produced monocoque chassis of carbon fiber composite design with patented RTM structural reinforcements. It has a vridmomentskoofficient the entire 32 000 nautical miles per degree as measured by shock absorber mounting. It works with fabrics of both pre-Preger and pre-press version some with a more targeted fiber. Monocoque total weight is 147.5 kg. For this purpose, the Lamborghini has built a brand new carbon composite & Title of 4500 square meters factory in Sant 'Agata Bolognese. The factory is fully climate-controlled 12 months a year and includes two autoclaves, laser cutters for fabrics and laser trimming of the finished, pre-press equipment and CMM - digitally-controlled workstation which allows only a maximum of 1 mm tolerance for the entire car chassis design. The car kolfibermonocoque supplemented by a roof of carbon fiber, and aluminiumsubframes front and rear. Doors, fenders and fronthuv are made of aluminum and other body panels in the composite, while the bumpers are made of a special flexible and contoured composite.



    Perfection and quality pervades the entire car's design. With the new car takes Lamborghini two steps forward and skip a whole generation of sports cars. It runs from contemporary Italian home-built dinosaurs to the future of extreme super sports cars with the best technology much of which actually comes from Sweden! You have selected Swedish world leading Öhlins as supplier for its pushrodfjädring in true super sports car spirit, which the dampers are visible in the engine compartment and through the back window somhar features taken from the last Super Veloce. Front suspension is also standard equipped with a "lifting" system and kränghämmare at 81.7 N / mm, which helps to balance out the car's low center role. Swedish Haldex supplies fyrhjulsdrivlinan and Swedish Atlas Copco stands for electrical digital-quality tools to ensure proper torque for each screw in the assembly. Some modern features that we are not accustomed to find in the super sports cars with low weight has been an important part of the objective is "passive pedestrain Protection System", "Keyless Go", 8x airbags including knee airbags, fully self-produced seats with airbag sensors to shut off at the light and small passengers. As yet another step in the developed quality awareness as Lamborghini, so have a new supplier of leather contracted. All leather is scanned to detect defects, also less than what the naked eye can see and then use only the flawless lots of skin. Almost all vehicle manufacture uses A-leather on the outcrops and B leather on the rear, roof and sides, etc.. For the Lamborghini is only AA approved leather regardless of where it should be used, which usually consists of less than 30% of the whole dermis.



    Design

    For the first time we see a clear design language on a super sports car, which goes all the way outside-in. The classic saxdörrarna is still around. We can see that several soft racial strains are from the 60th century, Lamborghini 350 GT and 450 GT models in front of his nose. At the same time are extreme designs with parables to the concept car Estoque in the rear, but with a much bigger attitude. In profile, the car has a sharp side marker resembling McLaeren F1 sideline. Side-Line has a steep climb back released and runs with a sharp concave folds over the otherwise rounded rear fender. A large air intakes on the side and from above you can see the indented waist of the car in order to optimize drag that has a CWX value of 0.68. Some of the body's lines run all the way from the front of the nose and above the ceiling on to the large folded wing. The ceiling has been raised two batches - one for the driver and the passenger. On closer scrutiny reveals that these soft elevations are marked folds with a clear alignment. Other body lines running from the front, follow all the way into the dashboard and into the center console. The entire interior bears a clear Lamborghini DNA and a unique design language which makes itself felt through the entire car. It could result in everyone in the car with a blindfold and when he sees, he will be able to determine automakers in seconds by the characteristic sharp Y-formation language appearing on consoles, switches and panels. The instrumentation is completely new, with a central digital meter in front of the driver. The center position can be exchanged between the speedometer and rev counter, where you get the secondary data center shown in the smaller shape within the main meter. Most beautiful spots of the car is in our opinion, obliquely from the front, diagonally from behind and from above. Frontnos respective rear ends of its exhaust outlets are centered in all beauty liberating grotesque, vulgar and a cheeky attitude that will make previous models and most other supercars feel pale!



    The rear features an integrated wing as it rises, the parables of the two weakly arched wings. The front lamps are of triangular shape but with the cut-off points so that they become pentagonal. Unlike its competitors, so we feel like Lamborghini, happily, not been towards larger sizes and designs, but rather maintained the proportions from the previous model to maintain a genuinely low super sports car character.



    Specifications & Prices:



    Price: Displayed around 270 000 euros excluding local taxes and VAT.

    Corresponding to about 3.1 million crowns to the euro rate of 9.2. The equipment level is high from the beginning and a lot is included as standard, including sequential box, key-less go, lifting systems, ceramic brakes and more.



    Engine: 6.5 liter 60 ° V12.

    700 hp at 8250 rpm.

    690 NM at 5,500 rpm.

    Four valves per cylinder, variable valve timing, four blocks and bolted generally better elasticity.

    Euro 5, CO2 emissions 398g/km. 17.2 l / 100km.

    Four-wheel drive and Transmission: Haldex four-wheel drive with seven speed Sequential CFK Triple Cone Syncronized with ISR system consisting of an actuator for each gear shift instead of a double clutch. The exchange rate is at 50 milliseconds with genuine emotional mechanical sequential race feeling the heavy load and a real flexibility in the soft load.

    5 Driving Mode variations: Strada, Sport, Corsa, ESP off / on.

    Performance: 0-100 km / h 2.9 secs, top speed> 350 km / h,

    Air resistance: CWX A 0.68

    Weight: 100 kg lighter than the LP640-4, ie 1560 kg

    Wheels: 19 inch front and 20 inches rear.

    Safety: Pedestrain Protection System, 2-stage airbags, Total 8 pieces included airbag airbags for the knees.



    The possibility of closer acquaintance with you:



    8 to 11 November 2010, presentation in Sant'Agata for selected customers.

    April 27 to May 8 2011th Dealers and influential journalists invited to the Vallelunga circuit for a test drive.

    Order Portal of Lamborghini opens in December.

     


    Re: Murcielago successor/replacement

    Name is AVENTADOR?

    dutch source: 

    http://www.autowereld.com/autonieuws/detail.asp?artikel=10730

     

     


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    indeed shifting is ancient technology - so is a fuel burning engine..  I happen to like both :) 


    Re: Murcielago successor/replacement

    Atzporsche:

    Name is AVENTADOR?

    dutch source: 

    http://www.autowereld.com/autonieuws/detail.asp?artikel=10730

     

     

    Anything is better tha Jota.


    Re: Murcielago successor/replacement

    "The bull of the Sons of Don Celestino Cuadri Vides, called Aventador, was marked with the number 32, was black, chestnut and weighed 507 kilos of pv was raced in second place in the Plaza de Toros de Zaragoza, (10/15/1993 ), accounting for the skilled Emilio Muñoz, who cut off his ear. From their behavior in the sand got the trophy of the Rock The bravest bull Madroñera Marketplace Pilar."
     


    Re: Murcielago successor/replacement

    koko:
    Atzporsche:

    Name is AVENTADOR?

    dutch source: 

    http://www.autowereld.com/autonieuws/detail.asp?artikel=10730

     

     

    Anything is better tha Jota.

     The word Murcielago is already not that english-friendly (in terms of pronunciation) Aventador is way worse, and USA is a prime market for Lambo. 


    Re: Murcielago successor/replacement

    I like it much better than Jota.

    Thanks for the historic reference, its nice to see Lambo continue using famous bull events for their names.


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    Re: Murcielago successor/replacement

     

    From technical figures, it looks very promising, I just hope it doesn´t have the angular weird shape of Sesto Elemento.

    J.Seven


    Re: Murcielago successor/replacement

    J.Seven:

     

    From technical figures, it looks very promising, I just hope it doesn´t have the angular weird shape of Sesto Elemento.

    J.Seven


    People who saw the car are saying it will look a lot like the Reventon.
     


    Re: Murcielago successor/replacement

    koko:
    J.Seven:

     

    From technical figures, it looks very promising, I just hope it doesn´t have the angular weird shape of Sesto Elemento.

    J.Seven


    People who saw the car are saying it will look a lot like the Reventon.
     


    I find the Murci much more beautiful than Reventon Smiley . Thrue out the last decade Lambos became so much more cleaner on their design...I sure hope it´s more like a evolution than a revolution design for next Gallardo and Aventator.

    J.Seven


    Re: Murcielago successor/replacement

    J.Seven:
    koko:
    J.Seven:

     

    From technical figures, it looks very promising, I just hope it doesn´t have the angular weird shape of Sesto Elemento.

    J.Seven


    People who saw the car are saying it will look a lot like the Reventon.
     


    I find the Murci much more beautiful than Reventon Smiley . Thrue out the last decade Lambos became so much more cleaner on their design...I sure hope it´s more like a evolution than a revolution design for next Gallardo and Aventator.

    J.Seven

     100% agree


    Re: Murcielago successor/replacement

    Don't worry guys. When it comes to the V12, Lambo never disappoints!!
     


    Re: Murcielago successor/replacement

      shin:

     Heard that the Jota (or whatever the final name will be) will start production by end of 2010 or early 2011, after the LP670 SV production stops and retooling of the assembly lines. Might make a 2011 Geneva appearance ? Anyone who hears differently, chip in please.  I wonder when exactly the LP670 SV will stop production..

    It already did stop

    http://www.rennteam.com/forum/page1.html?vs=32
     

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    Re: Murcielago successor/replacement

    And oh, yes, it'll be light. Thanks to Lamborghini CEO Stephen Winkelmann's clarion call for weight loss, the new bullish beast will feature a carbon fiber monocoque chassis that'll cut the weight 500 lbs. (230 kg) from the Murcielago while upping rigidity by a whopping 70%.

    http://jalopnik.com/5689092/lamborghini-aventador-is-the-new-jota

    So not just 100 kg lighter, like someone said here, but 230 kg lighter ! 

     

     


    Re: Murcielago successor/replacement

    Lamborghini is investing on right features, weight loss and rigidity. Now they only need to develop some more RWD units, instead of AWD to give them a little more "spicy" driving feel.

    J.Seven


    Re: Murcielago successor/replacement

    mariusv:
    So not just 100 kg lighter, like someone said here, but 230 kg lighter ! 


    I would wait until some magazine will have put the new car on the scales. Smiley


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    Re: Murcielago successor/replacement

    Rossi:
    mariusv:
    So not just 100 kg lighter, like someone said here, but 230 kg lighter ! 


    I would wait until some magazine will have put the new car on the scales. Smiley

     Steel chassis versus carbon fiber chassis,100 kg saving is way too little it's at least 200 kg ;)


    Re: Murcielago successor/replacement

    J.Seven:

    Lamborghini is investing on right features, weight loss and rigidity. Now they only need to develop some more RWD units, instead of AWD to give them a little more "spicy" driving feel.

    J.Seven

    And not to mention even lower weight ! And maybe price Smiley

    I really don't know what they keep insisting on this AWD system; it's clear that most customers, and even Lamborghini's (former) test driver, mister Balboni, aren't very fond of it. Imho, driving a supercar with all-wheel-drive is like banging a really hot chick with a condom. Sure, it's much much safer, but there just isn't the same pleasure involved ! Smiley

     

     


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    Re: Murcielago successor/replacement

    now that is some camo.

    front fender-lines look ver similar to current car...(fender-line reminds me of my boat on order straight away )


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    Re: Murcielago successor/replacement

    sunny:

    New pics and driving report: http://www.motorward.com/2010/12/first-shots-of-lamborghini-aventador-lp700-4/

    http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsArticle/AllCars/254451/


    I can see two different fronts on those spy shots Smiley

    This one looks much better...

    ...than this one, "a la Sesto Elemento" Smiley

    J.Seven


     
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