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    Re: Macan Facelift 2018?

    SciFrog:

    No digital dash on a $100k car in 2018... Whoa

    I agree... Smiley There is nothing wrong with an analogue dash but even my wife, she hates new tech, loves the digital dash in our E63S. Just yesterday she asked me if her C63S Cab will have a digital dash and when I said yes, I anticipated an opposed reaction from her but she was happy about it.


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991.2 Carrera GTS Cabriolet (2018), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mercedes E63 S AMG Edition 1 (2018), Mini JCW (2015)


    Re: Macan Facelift 2018?

    I know the marketing department like to take some liberties when retouching photographs for the website but this one for the new Macan is ridiculous as the graphic artist has enlarged the rear wheel so much that it looks like the car has been hot rodded

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    Re: Macan Facelift 2018?

    Only engine option avaiable for now... 2.0 T 245hp

    Even less than the previous basic version

     

    https://www.carscoops.com/2018/10/2019-porsche-macan-debuts-europe-245-ps-2-0l-turbo-four/


    Re: Macan Facelift 2018?

    Enzo II:

    Only engine option avaiable for now... 2.0 T 245hp

    Even less than the previous basic version

     

    https://www.carscoops.com/2018/10/2019-porsche-macan-debuts-europe-245-ps-2-0l-turbo-four/

    The other Audi engines don't have WLTP certification yet... Smiley


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991.2 Carrera GTS Cabriolet (2018), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mercedes E63 S AMG Edition 1 (2018), Mini JCW (2015)


    Re: Macan Facelift 2018?

    BTW....

     

                       2019 Macan  vs   2016 Macan

    0-100:             6,5-6,7 s               6,5- 6,7 s

    Max Speed        225kmh             229kmh

    Cons.              8,1 l/100km          7,2 l/100km

    Emi.                   185 gr/km          167 gr/km

     

     


    Re: Macan Facelift 2018?

    I still cannot believe how they managed to ruin the rear look of a very well designed car.


    Re: Macan Facelift 2018?

    Enzo II:

    BTW....

     

                       2019 Macan  vs   2016 Macan

    0-100:             6,5-6,7 s               6,5- 6,7 s

    Max Speed        225kmh             229kmh

    Cons.              8,1 l/100km          7,2 l/100km

    Emi.                   185 gr/km          167 gr/km

     

    Consumption and Emissions as from July 2018 are on the basis of a real world cycle whereas previously they were on a simulated cycle. Following the VW affair cars have to be actually driven and measured. These discrepancies appear for all cars.

     


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    Re: Macan Facelift 2018?

    SciFrog:

    I still cannot believe how they managed to ruin the rear look of a very well designed car.

    It looks better live but it is a bit color sensitive in my opinion, more than the old one. The interior is much nicer, also quality level is almost Cayenne level now.


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991.2 Carrera GTS Cabriolet (2018), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mercedes E63 S AMG Edition 1 (2018), Mini JCW (2015)


    Re: Macan Facelift 2018?

    reginos:
    Enzo II:

    BTW....

     

                       2019 Macan  vs   2016 Macan

    0-100:             6,5-6,7 s               6,5- 6,7 s

    Max Speed        225kmh             229kmh

    Cons.              8,1 l/100km          7,2 l/100km

    Emi.                   185 gr/km          167 gr/km

     

    Consumption and Emissions as from July 2018 are on the basis of a real world cycle whereas previously they were on a simulated cycle. Following the VW affair cars have to be actually driven and measured. These discrepancies appear for all cars.

     


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    "Porsche....and Nothing else matters"

     

    is there any Information available, how many models / options Porsche actually needed to have the base Macan WLTP-certified ? 


    Re: Macan Facelift 2018?

    d997h:
    reginos:
    Enzo II:

    BTW....

     

                       2019 Macan  vs   2016 Macan

    0-100:             6,5-6,7 s               6,5- 6,7 s

    Max Speed        225kmh             229kmh

    Cons.              8,1 l/100km          7,2 l/100km

    Emi.                   185 gr/km          167 gr/km

     

    Consumption and Emissions as from July 2018 are on the basis of a real world cycle whereas previously they were on a simulated cycle. Following the VW affair cars have to be actually driven and measured. These discrepancies appear for all cars.

     


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    "Porsche....and Nothing else matters"

     

    is there any Information available, how many models / options Porsche actually needed to have the base Macan WLTP-certified ? 

    I am not privy to such information. Perhaps, RC or Kreso?


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    "Porsche....and Nothing else matters"


    Re: Macan Facelift 2018?

    I am just curious, thx.


    Re: Macan Facelift 2018?

    So here we are at the end of October and the only new Macan we've got is a weaker base model. How much longer do we have to wait before we see the S and Turbo?

    rulesdontapply


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    Re: Macan Facelift 2018?

    rulesdontapply:

    So here we are at the end of October and the only new Macan we've got is a weaker base model. How much longer do we have to wait before we see the S and Turbo?

    rulesdontapply

    Not looking good right now, engines are coming from Audi and need to be WLTP re-certified. Schedule was around Dec. but I even heard something about first quarter 2019. Smiley 


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mercedes E63 S AMG Edition 1 (2018), Range Rover Evoque Si4 Black Edition (2019)


    Re: Macan Facelift 2018?

    Not Macan but saw a white new Cayenne yesterday and found the new rear to be bland, generic and to my eyes very ugly.


    Re: Macan Facelift 2018?

    SciFrog:

    Not Macan but saw a white new Cayenne yesterday and found the new rear to be bland, generic and to my eyes very ugly.

    Saw my first Panamera Sport Turismo Turbo S on the road today...had a Stuttgart customs plate, someone had apparently a factory delivery. Didn't even know that Porsche still does factory deliveries right now.


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mercedes E63 S AMG Edition 1 (2018), Range Rover Evoque Si4 Black Edition (2019)

     


    Re: Macan Facelift 2018?

    SciFrog:

    Not Macan but saw a white new Cayenne yesterday and found the new rear to be bland, generic and to my eyes very ugly.

    Can't stand the new Cayenne. Front is alright but the back - yeesh. So many lines, ledges and edges; not cohesive at all, and the unpainted black part at the bottom is offensive at that price point. Not a fan at all.

    Looking forward to the Macan, although I always liked the simplicity and distinctiveness of the old model. Hope the new one doesn't bollocks it up in the flesh.

    rulesdontapply


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    Re: Macan Facelift 2018?

    RC:
    rulesdontapply:

    So here we are at the end of October and the only new Macan we've got is a weaker base model. How much longer do we have to wait before we see the S and Turbo?

    rulesdontapply

    Not looking good right now, engines are coming from Audi and need to be WLTP re-certified. Schedule was around Dec. but I even heard something about first quarter 2019. Smiley 

    Thanks for the update, RC. Yikes, not good at all. Hope those that are currently Macan-hungry are happy with the base model!

    rulesdontapply


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    Re: Macan Facelift 2018?

    I was told by the sales guy I've dealt with at my dealer for the past 12 years that the dealer presentation of the new Macan set for early next month has been cancelled at very short notice and may, just may, be rescheduled for some time in February. Sadly he has had enough and is leaving. He says he simply cannot earn a living any longer as there are no new  cars to sell with only one 911 due to arrive with them before the end of this year and no other new stock coming through. The dealership is trying to get by on used car sales but  rather than paying realistic prices for stock to loyal customers they are sending out emails offering top prices and then trying to low ball bid them. The whole situation is farcical and down to VW group's utter shambles surrounding dieselgate that caused all of this in the first place.


    Re: Macan Facelift 2018?

    This situation is ridiculous and unacceptable for a large luxury auto maker like Porsche. And yet many here are giving them a huge pass when they trash other companies ad nauseum...


    Re: Macan Facelift 2018?

    RC:
    rulesdontapply:

    So here we are at the end of October and the only new Macan we've got is a weaker base model. How much longer do we have to wait before we see the S and Turbo?

    rulesdontapply

    Not looking good right now, engines are coming from Audi and need to be WLTP re-certified. Schedule was around Dec. but I even heard something about first quarter 2019. Smiley 

    The new base Macan is the only model available to order in the US through the dealer. Configurator is not available online. 


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    Re: Macan Facelift 2018?

    SciFrog:

    This situation is ridiculous and unacceptable for a large luxury auto maker like Porsche. And yet many here are giving them a huge pass when they trash other companies ad nauseum...

    You are on a negative roll Smiley Keep it coming. All. Of. It.


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    Re: Macan Facelift 2018?

    This wouldnt happen to be an East Anglian based dealer by any chance would it because this story is oddly familiar


    Re: Macan Facelift 2018?

    Not East Anglia. Midlands dealership,

     


    Re: Macan Facelift 2018?

    ISUK:

    I was told by the sales guy I've dealt with at my dealer for the past 12 years that the dealer presentation of the new Macan set for early next month has been cancelled at very short notice and may, just may, be rescheduled for some time in February. Sadly he has had enough and is leaving. He says he simply cannot earn a living any longer as there are no new  cars to sell with only one 911 due to arrive with them before the end of this year and no other new stock coming through. The dealership is trying to get by on used car sales but  rather than paying realistic prices for stock to loyal customers they are sending out emails offering top prices and then trying to low ball bid them. The whole situation is farcical and down to VW group's utter shambles surrounding dieselgate that caused all of this in the first place.

    Told you guys...pretty tough situation right now, especially for dealerships but even more for sales personell. 

    My Audi guy found a new home at Lamborghini but he was lucky. At least they have cars to sell... Smiley


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    Re: Macan Facelift 2018?

    RC:
    ISUK:

    I was told by the sales guy I've dealt with at my dealer for the past 12 years that the dealer presentation of the new Macan set for early next month has been cancelled at very short notice and may, just may, be rescheduled for some time in February. Sadly he has had enough and is leaving. He says he simply cannot earn a living any longer as there are no new  cars to sell with only one 911 due to arrive with them before the end of this year and no other new stock coming through. The dealership is trying to get by on used car sales but  rather than paying realistic prices for stock to loyal customers they are sending out emails offering top prices and then trying to low ball bid them. The whole situation is farcical and down to VW group's utter shambles surrounding dieselgate that caused all of this in the first place.

    Told you guys...pretty tough situation right now, especially for dealerships but even more for sales personell. 

    My Audi guy found a new home at Lamborghini but he was lucky. At least they have cars to sell... Smiley

    What is the problem with Porsche?

    Late preparation on their behalf or something more inherent to their engines relating to emissions?

    BTW Porsche delivered a record number of cars during the first 7 months of 2018 but now it's standstill..!


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    Re: Macan Facelift 2018?

    The cynic in me suspects that they delivered a record amount because they told dealers to stock up as they knew production was going to be suspended. A lot of extra allocation was suddenly made available in Q1.

    My dealer must have had around 25 + 718 Boxster and Cayman models arrive in the first quarter that they had to spec and were not customer ordered cars. To show you how crazy the situation is they did not want to carry the cost of that stock so looked to sell it as quickly as possible. I bagged a a great discount on the Cayman I bought as a result. All the cars were sold fairly quickly - I'm not sure how many were discounted but I suspect quite a number of them were - with the net result that less than two months later they had nothing new to sell. If they had drip fed these carst to market they could have sold all of them at full retail level as potential customers would have either had the choice to take something physically on site or wait for an indefinite period for a factory order to be fulfilled post WLTP certification.

     


    Re: Macan Facelift 2018?

    The leadership of VW Group is to blame. If they would have handled the emissions scandal in Europe the same way they did in the US, I doubt there would be the same (certification and driving restrictions) issues we have now.


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    Re: Macan Facelift 2018?

    That's what basicly happened in Spain, not only with Porsche, but with all brands. Suddenly models selling 100 cars/year, sold 500 units in one month


     
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