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    Bad news for 93 octane in US

    Here's a story from an industry newsletter:

    "Irving Oil plans to reduce premium octane from 93 to 91 for some of their stations and wholesale exchange partners. The move affects marketers in northern New Hampshire and Vermont. The company converted its Maine operations to the lower octane number last year. Irving is not the only company cutting premium octane. Some in California have done so too, and gasoline blenders say that the overall pool of gasoline could swell throughout the country if other refiners did the same. Some marketers would just as soon see the 91-octane West Coast standard move to the East and Gulf Coasts."

    It may take years to transition, but a move to a nationwide standard of 91 is coming.

    The good news is that there will always be marketers that will take advantage of the opportunity and sell high octane fuel. Think Sunoco.

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    Sunoco 95
    Got to love competition!

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    Sunoco 100 - use this link to find a station near you:
    http://www.sunocoinc.com/site/Consumer/RaceFuels/260GT100Locations/

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    Cool, cool- there's one not far from my casa!

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    Coochas said:
    Sunoco 100 - use this link to find a station near you:
    http://www.sunocoinc.com/site/Consumer/RaceFuels/260GT100Locations/



    Wow 100 octane. I guess it make a difference Do people use this for track days only?

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    bstew said:
    Wow 100 octane. I guess it make a difference Do people use this for track days only?


    I think with a stock engine there is no benefit. I learned about this 100 gas when I had an Audi with a Revo flash - some chippers let you 'tune' the engine's timing via the OBD port for higher octane fuel (like for track days or just screwing around!).

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    I'll stick with my 92/93 octane for now. Hey if it goes away then I will get 89. Currently the stations around here carry 87 89 93.

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    CA has been limited to 91 statewide for as long as I can remember.

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    I'm not sure I remember the dates correctly but here's the timeline in Cal. CARB II reformulated gasoline was mandated in '96 and an octane shortage was predicted. There was a fair amount of public disclosure that premium would move from 93 to 92. CARB III came along and, with little public notice, premium moved from 92 to 91. I think this occurred after 2000 but with the way the years are slipping by, I can't be sure...

    Re: Bad news for 93 octane in US

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    Coochas said:
    Quote:
    bstew said:
    Wow 100 octane. I guess it make a difference Do people use this for track days only?


    I think with a stock engine there is no benefit. I learned about this 100 gas when I had an Audi with a Revo flash - some chippers let you 'tune' the engine's timing via the OBD port for higher octane fuel (like for track days or just screwing around!).



    If you mix it about 50/50 you will see a difference. More than that is a waste unless you chip the car. GAIC has a cool programming tool which lets you select programs -

    http://www.ndimports.com/00_global/04_prod/giac/flash.asp

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    And for those of you in or near upstate New York or around Chicago, Illinois, Delta Sonic, the carwash chain, carries CAM2 RON 100 octane race fuel, as well:

    http://www.deltasoniccarwash.com/gas.htm


     
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