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    Re: OFFICIAL: New Panamera (2016)

    It's not the PORSCHE lettering that looks cheap, it's putting it on the strip of lights/plastic that stretches between the taillights that looks cheap, like Dodge:

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    Re: OFFICIAL: New Panamera (2016)

    i actually very much liked the fact that there used to not be any porsche lettering on the back of the cars except for the rear window sticker.


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    SciFrog:

    The black rear strip is a very cheap gimmick.

    It looks OK but the PORSCHE lettering looks like on the Boxster...not a good idea in my opinion. Maybe in a different color (a dark grey) or different size? Don't know.


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    Milanno:
    SciFrog:

    I hope it doesn't make it on the Macan FL and ruin that beauty...

    Macan facelift will be part of new Porsche design layout, so expect same elements on Macan facelift like you saw on new Panamera.

    When is Macan.2 coming?


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    Grant:

    When is Macan.2 coming?

    2018.


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    Milanno:
    Grant:

    When is Macan.2 coming?

    2018.

    Model Year 2018 (Summer 2017) or Calendar Year 2018?


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    Grant:

    Model Year 2018 (Summer 2017) or Calendar Year 2018?

    In Europe it should be on market during 2018.


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    Thanks!


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New Panamera (2016)

    For family-orented ones smiley


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    Why?! laugh 


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    Don't know... liked it initially, but the more real pictures I see of it the less I like it. Looks like a big whale angry

    I also think it is weird that they have put brushed alu pipes for PSE. Either chrome or Black high gloss would be better like on all other models. I though the brushed alu was dedicated to the base models Smiley.


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    The black roof doesn't look nice (to my eyes), rest of it does. Also aren't the brushed alu pipes part of the sport exhaust? 


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    Lukas:

    Don't know... liked it initially, but the more real pictures I see of it the less I like it. Looks like a big whale angry

    I also think it is weird that they have put brushed alu pipes for PSE. Either chrome or Black high gloss would be better like on all other models. I though the brushed alu was dedicated to the base models Smiley

     

    Would you feel better about them if you were told that they are brushed stainless steel?  Smiley Smiley


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    fritz:
    Lukas:

    Don't know... liked it initially, but the more real pictures I see of it the less I like it. Looks like a big whale angry

    I also think it is weird that they have put brushed alu pipes for PSE. Either chrome or Black high gloss would be better like on all other models. I though the brushed alu was dedicated to the base models Smiley

     

    Would you feel better about them if you were told that they are brushed stainless steel?  Smiley Smiley

    Thanks for clarifying fritz, now I can sleep well tonight SmileySmiley


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    Panamera, like other Porsches, is distorted in photographs.  In real life, the car is low, sleek, nicely proportioned.  And I think that the ratio of width to height in the Panamera is higher than a 991..


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    Milanno:

    For family-orented ones smiley

    Anyone know whether the estate version rumoured is approved?  Assume it will be not too far from Milanno's image here....


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    4trac:

    Anyone know whether the estate version rumoured is approved?  Assume it will be not too far from Milanno's image here....

    These renders are from great photoshop artist Theophilus Chin Smiley Its pretty sure Panamera Estate will be produced, since we already saw spy pics of testing mule:

    http://www.carscoops.com/2016/04/2017-porsche-panamera-sport-turismo.html


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    4trac:

    Anyone know whether the estate version rumoured is approved?  Assume it will be not too far from Milanno's image here....

    Car and Driver (I think it was) said it was confirmed. I posted a quote and link further back in the thread. They also said the Panamera coupe is possible. (The coupe comment may have been a little stronger or weaker than "possible", I can't recall exactly.)

    Edit: Well, I thought I did, but I couldn't find it. I'll go see if I can find the story again.

    I don't think this was the article I was referring to, since it was more recent, but: http://blog.caranddriver.com/porsche-panamera-shooting-brake-is-a-go-for-production-and-well-get-it/

    Ok, it was a link in this post, https://www.rennteam.com/forum/thread/71402616/Re_OFFICIAL_New_Panamera_2016/page1.html#p71402616, that I read and commented on later, not a link I posted, not Car and Driver.


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    Lukas:
    fritz:
    Lukas:

    I also think it is weird that they have put brushed alu pipes for PSE. Either chrome or Black high gloss would be better like on all other models. I though the brushed alu was dedicated to the base models Smiley

    Would you feel better about them if you were told that they are brushed stainless steel?  Smiley Smiley

    Thanks for clarifying fritz, now I can sleep well tonight SmileySmiley

    Smiley Smiley


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New Panamera (2016)

    Sedan looks better than the hatchback 


    Re: OFFICIAL: New Panamera (2016)

    There was a rumor lately that the Sport Turismo (station wagon) could be canceled due to VW's new model clearing strategy.


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New Panamera (2016)

    Lukas:

    Don't know... liked it initially, but the more real pictures I see of it the less I like it. Looks like a big whale angry

    I also think it is weird that they have put brushed alu pipes for PSE. Either chrome or Black high gloss would be better like on all other models. I though the brushed alu was dedicated to the base models Smiley.

    There we go Lukas!

    The car looks amazing on the press pictures, where every angle and lightning is spot on. The pictures you have posted are real life pictures. This is how I did see couple of cars around Stuttgart. Looks nice, but nothing special, not an eye catcher at all. I did see how a new Panamera parked in front of a trendy Bar. Not even one person (except of me) took notice of or was giving special attention towards.

    And this saying - those pictures are a Turbo, the top of the range. A 200k€ car - SmileySmiley


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    I think that the Porsche Panamera looks too refined, too sterile, too...German. angry It lacks that particular "je ne sais quoi" people expect from such cars, perfection can sometimes get boring.

    However, I think that this car will sell very well, just look at the 991.2 Turbo S. People seem to want boring, they want a certain standard, a certain status quo, a certain class of product and they are willing to pay good money for it. The word bourgeois comes to my mind... 

    My Audi R8 is a good example: Compare it to the Huracan and you get the message. The Audi R8 is basically a bourgeois version of the Huracan, as weird as this may sound. To many Germans, the R8 may look like something exotic but in reality, it satisfies the need of something less in your face vs. the Huracan. A Lamborghini for people who want to attract less attention. I cannot say I like it, even for me, the R8 is a bit too conservative (the rear is a bit too conservative and the front lights should have been a tiny bit less Audi-like) but after joining a neighborhood "block party" this weekend, I nailed it with the R8 (more about it in the R8 thread sooner or later).


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New Panamera (2016)

    Very well said, thats exactly the point. The new Panamera may not be visually spectacular, indeed quite sterile looking but it will sell well because it ticks all the right boxes for folks who want the best tech, the special porsche driving feel, practicality for 4, and no particular need to show off. Compared to the sedans offered by other German marques I for one have decided to go in for a S when it is released. 


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    RC:

    I think that the Porsche Panamera looks too refined, too sterile, too...German. angry It lacks that particular "je ne sais quoi" people expect from such cars, perfection can sometimes get boring.

    However, I think that this car will sell very well, just look at the 991.2 Turbo S. People seem to want boring, they want a certain standard, a certain status quo, a certain class of product and they are willing to pay good money for it. The word bourgeois comes to my mind... 

    Yep - this is it! Bourgeois! It is good looking but as you say no "stunner".

    But hey - even if Porsche would build an ugly shoe box they would sell it. The brand is fantastic!

     


    Re: OFFICIAL: New Panamera (2016)

    RC:

    There was a rumor lately that the Sport Turismo (station wagon) could be canceled due to VW's new model clearing strategy.

    NO wagon for Posrche is a good news for me Smiley


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    SportCarGroup:
    RC:

    There was a rumor lately that the Sport Turismo (station wagon) could be canceled due to VW's new model clearing strategy.

    NO wagon for Posrche is a good news for me Smiley

    Agree. For me they also should cancel the Macan, Cayenne and Panamera. And yep - that Boxster and Caymen we don't need either. Back to the roots - I'm not a shareholder and I only care about their sports cars and not their business success SmileySmiley


    Re: OFFICIAL: New Panamera (2016)

    Well...the Cayman may be on that list as well... angry


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New Panamera (2016)

    The wagon makes sense, the sedan luggage space is too small for a family car...


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    SciFrog:

    The wagon makes sense, the sedan luggage space is too small for a family car...

    Do you really think someone chooses the Panamera as a family car?

    I know so many BMW 7 series and S class owners and none of them is using their car(s) as a family car, more as a business car to commute comfortably.

    I am seriously considering a RS6 as a family car though because in my opinion, this car offers a lot for the money. I just wish the RS6 would be a bit shorter (it is a pretty long car) and in winter time, I would be worried about ground clearance. No RS6 would have been able to go where I went with my Jeep GC SRT last winter in Austria...the snow was pretty high and the roads were not cleaned in Lech/Zuers. Ground clearance is the only concern I have with the RS6.

    The Panamera Turbo as an alternative? I burned myself once with that first gen Turbo S, I won't do it again. 

    As a family car, the Panamera would never be my top choice, sorry.


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