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    Re: 992 (Next 911 generation 2018/2019)

    I like it a lot, with the exception of the shape of the rear wing, especially when not deployed.
    Also, the shape of the inlets o the rear side panels seems final (in the pics of the 'Ring), and that seems a bit smaller/awkwardly shaped... Well, we'll see!

    Any news on when we can expect the announcement of the 992? September 2018?


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    The exterior design is a matter of details, but the interior is what I believe will the determinant of how 911 the 992 remains.


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    all 992 variants will be turbo engine.

    "911 turbo" is now quite misleading to the new customers if they don't know 911 history.


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    Targa Tim:

    all 992 variants will be turbo engine.

    "911 turbo" is now quite misleading to the new customers if they don't know 911 history.

    it's easy, it's the "Turbo 911 Turbo"

    or

    " 9 Turbo 1 Turbo 1 "

    Smiley


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    Or “Beast”.


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    My car ­čÜś only has five letters in the back. The good old days. 

    Turbo cars can be tricky and expensive to maintain and keep running at peak power as hoses and other plumbing ages.  Out of warranty the base 911 will be expensive to keep.  Turbo bills for base model thrills and value would be a hit on resale very quickly.  Just my two cents. I know most of you never see the end of a warranty but you do deal with resale value even when leasing. There is no free lunch.  

    That said. Are there any tuning kits for these new turbos?


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    Wonderbar:

    Or “Beast”.

    Or "benchmark"... Smiley Smiley 

    Sorry, I had to do a bit of mocking here (after my "benchmark" 991.1 Turbo S). Smiley I know that Porsche was caught by surprise (488, McLaren) but this is no excuse.


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    So what I glean from all of this:  we don't have a real photo but the car looks heavy and big and has glimmers of Panemera ugliness.  

    Isuk is likely conceptually right, that it will drive long time 911 guys back to older cars and to Ferrari, but the Chinese market will eat this thing up.

    Makes sense to hold on to 991.2 GT3s?


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    watt:

    Makes sense to hold on to 991.2 GT3s?

    You know that Mr watt.

    The days of the Hairy Chest cars are numbered. Smiley..Regulations are slowly killing them off..Smiley..


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    throt:
    watt:

    Makes sense to hold on to 991.2 GT3s?

    You know that Mr watt.

    The days of the Hairy Chest cars are numbered. Smiley..Regulations are slowly killing them off..Smiley..


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    throt

     

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    Unfortunately, so correct a statement. A few years ago I wrote here about how the 991 had an enlarged footprint so it would fit into a different EPA classification for mileage requirements.   Looks like that trend is continuing with the 992.   


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    Geez guys, give the car a chance. Go back to the old cars – are you serious?


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    Leawood, Not sure if you are correct that turbos will lose value drastically. Older turbos from the 70s 80s and 90s are going at extreme premiums.  


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    Wonderbar:

    Geez guys, give the car a chance. Go back to the old cars – are you serious?

    Who wants the old cars? I just want to keep the sound, not the tech (OK, a 800 hp n/a engined monster wouldn't hurt either but this ain't gonna happen anyway with Porsche Smiley, not that it happened before Smiley).


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    Re: 992 (Next 911 generation 2018/2019)

    OK, not sure if this has been posted before but it seems the 992 will be officially presented at the Paris Autoshow in October.


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    RC:

    OK, not sure if this has been posted before but it seems the 992 will be officially presented at the Paris Autoshow in October.

    I guess Porsche prefers IAA but it falls on the wrong year this time? 


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    Wonderbar:

    Leawood, Not sure if you are correct that turbos will lose value drastically. Older turbos from the 70s 80s and 90s are going at extreme premiums.  

    Mostly I was concerned about turbo expenses while owning essentially a base model. Yeah the old turbos are expensive - mezger dry sump engines. Nothing like that appeal with the new ones. 


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    If that´s the case, ee can expect oficial photos in late july/early august right?


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     Hard for me to understand why anyone wants one of those old turbos. I had a 76 turbo, well modified, and it was not only unreliable but extremely tricky to drive. Talk about turbo lag! A real antique compared to the sophistication of current turbos. But for $24,500, I guess it was a bargain.


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    Right. Mine is much newer but still tricky to get in proper tune and running right. It is easier to exploit the power than with older turbos but I am still concerned that the new base models won’t justify the expense in the long run. To me there are the gt cars which have value and then everything else.  I could justify buying a new gt in a minute  in cash , but everything else in the Porsche lineup is not of value to me unless depreciated and slightly used.  The good news is that 911s are expensive so the first owner typically takes good care.  Better than average used cars are the result - with massive savings  

     


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    Wonderbar:

    Geez guys, give the car a chance. Go back to the old cars – are you serious?

    Very seriousSmiley

    "Old cars" under current consideration:  Speciale,  and keeping 2018 GT3

    Newer cars:  488


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    watt:
    Wonderbar:

    Geez guys, give the car a chance. Go back to the old cars – are you serious?

    Very seriousSmiley

    "Old cars" under current consideration:  Speciale,  and keeping 2018 GT3

    Newer cars:  488

    The Speciale isn't exactly an "old" car and the 2018 GT3 isn't either. Smiley

    458 Speciale is one of my favorite cars, same goes to the 458 Aperta.

    The 488? I like it a lot but even more the new 488 Pista. They sound great for turbo charged cars.

    New 992 Turbo is supposed to be available in 2019 already (rumors), which would be pretty early for a 911 Turbo.


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    Apologies if old news or wrong thread but saw this ad for Nurburgring 18 and noted the headlight config in the silhouette of a 991?

    https://www.facebook.com/porsche/photos/a.101994492667.92245.53855227667/10156744145567668/?type=3


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    I hope that is simply a bad photoshop job cause that front looks too roundish... not very sporty.


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    Carlos from Spain:

    I hope that is simply a bad photoshop job cause that front looks too roundish... not very sporty.

    It sure is. GT2 RS front copy-paste on an inflated 991.


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    bluelines:
    Carlos from Spain:

    I hope that is simply a bad photoshop job cause that front looks too roundish... not very sporty.

    It sure is. GT2 RS front copy-paste on an inflated 991.

    Smiley


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    Very poor photoshop, and on a frontpage too. angry


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    Re: 992 (Next 911 generation 2018/2019)

    Give the prices these days, at some point the "world's best sports car" becomes the "worlds worst supercar"...


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    noone1:

    Give the prices these days, at some point the "world's best sports car" becomes the "worlds worst supercar"...

    Only if your Toyota RAV4 takes the crown... Smiley


    Re: 992 (Next 911 generation 2018/2019)

    It's a bit like the 993, the front


     
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