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    Re: McLaren on a winning streak

    the-missile:

    ''Hello, I want to try the boot space please''

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    Nick, PXG clubs and Tour bag? That’s serious money. indecision


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    Lol those are not my stuff. It was staged by the dealer.

     


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    Re: McLaren on a winning streak

    Whoopsy:

    Lol those are not my stuff. It was staged by the dealer.

     

    I usually bring my helmet to car dealerships to see if there's enough headroom - get some funny looks! Smiley


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    Grant:
    Whoopsy:

    Lol those are not my stuff. It was staged by the dealer.

     

    I usually bring my helmet to car dealerships to see if there's enough headroom - get some funny looks! Smiley

     

    I know myself with a helmet fits perfectly inside a Porsche Smiley


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    Re: McLaren on a winning streak

    Exclusive: McLaren to launch extreme open-cockpit speedster







     

    Limited-run hypercar, set to cost around £1.5 million, will focus on the ‘pure pleasure’ of road driving


    McLaren is developing a two-seat open-cockpit speedster that will focus on providing exhilarating on-road driving and become the sixth model in its Ultimate Series, Autocar can exclusively reveal.

    Power is tipped to come from McLaren’s 4.0-litre V8 twin-turbocharged petrol engine and, unlike the 1036bhp Speedtail, won’t include any electrification or other hybrid technology. The output for the car is not yet known, although the focus on road driving pleasure suggests it will be slightly reduced from the 789bhp of the Senna. However, as part of McLaren’s Ultimate Series line-up, it is still likely to be elevated from other models in the firm’s range.

    The new speedster is tipped to weigh less than the 1198kg Senna, making it one of the lightest road cars the firm has ever built. This is achieved by both the lack of a roof and, as is customary for McLaren, extensive use of carbonfibre. 
     

    The open-top machine will be a strictly limited-run model, with volume thought to be restricted to fewer than the 500 examples of the Senna that the company has produced. A price of around £1.5 million has been suggested, similar to the cost of the Monza SP1 and SP2.


    Re: McLaren on a winning streak

    I am waiting for the 3 seater Spyder Grand Tourer Limited Edition.

     


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    Re: McLaren on a winning streak

    Whoopsy:

    I am waiting for the 3 seater Spyder Grand Tourer Limited Edition.

     

    Now I seriously don't know if this is a joke or not? Smiley Smiley Smiley


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    RC:
    Whoopsy:

    I am waiting for the 3 seater Spyder Grand Tourer Limited Edition.

     

    Now I seriously don't know if this is a joke or not? Smiley Smiley Smiley

     

    Wait till you see the OTHER limited edition, the 1 seater.

    It will be a limited coupe version. Then comes the limited Spyder version. 

    And which will also comes in ANOTHER limited edition which will not be road legal.

    Of course the coupe version will also have it's own run of limited track version.

     

     


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    Whoopsy:
    RC:
    Whoopsy:

    I am waiting for the 3 seater Spyder Grand Tourer Limited Edition.

     

    Now I seriously don't know if this is a joke or not? Smiley Smiley Smiley

     

    Wait till you see the OTHER limited edition, the 1 seater.

    It will be a limited coupe version. Then comes the limited Spyder version. 

    And which will also comes in ANOTHER limited edition which will not be road legal.

    Of course the coupe version will also have it's own run of limited track version.

     

     

    Only interested in the Ultimate Limited Edition variants.


    Re: McLaren on a winning streak

    Speedtail


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    Really not feeling that at all yes


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    Re: McLaren on a winning streak

    I strangely like it... But not at that price point, as a sort of 720S variant, I'd get it. Not as a Chiron alternative at all.


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    Re: McLaren on a winning streak

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haVCTy8mfsQ

     


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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dP7edrqwh_8

     


    Re: McLaren on a winning streak

    Did you see the new roadster?



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    Nice car. kiss

    Obviously based on the 720, the "closed" headlights look so much better... wink


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    Re: McLaren on a winning streak

    Rossi:

    Nice car. kiss

    Obviously based on the 720, the "closed" headlights look so much better... wink

    Learning from Porsche, gotta engineer something that needs a facelift from the beginning. 


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    Found this on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/p/B1gwznhHmJn/



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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKUOLksey_M

    1. McLaren 720S – 01:42:10 min ++++++++

    2. Porsche 911 GT2 RS – 01:42:29 min

    3. Komo-Tec Ariel Atom – 01:42:76 min

    4. Corvette C7 Z06R Luzifer TIKT Performance – 01:43:44 min

    5. Lamborghini Huracan Performante – 01:44:01 min

    6. Lamborghini Aventador SV – 01:44:81 min

    7. McLaren 570S – 01:45:04 min

    8. Mercedes-AMG GT R – 01:45:16 min

    9. Radical RXC – 01:45:42 min

    10. Donkervoort GTO – 01:46:28 min

    11. McLaren 650S (2014) – 01:46:35 min


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    As said before, fastest car below 500.000€. So much mechanical grip and easy to drive. 

     


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    Watched an episode of Shmee the other day. In this episode he was talking about car cost. The remarks on McLaren surprised me, since he always very positive on cars. He was talking about extended warranty for his 675LT. He claims the McLaren’s are very bespoken cars with a consequence there are repairs to be expected. So, he advices a prolongation the warranty but this cost app 8000 Euro for two years. I do not own a McLaren, but I wonder is it really so that the McLaren cars are so fragile and the repairs are so expenses? This must be the main reason why the deprecation is so high on these cars.

     


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    ALDO:

    As said before, fastest car below 500.000€. So much mechanical grip and easy to drive. 

     

    Also sounds very good... Smiley Smiley Smiley

     


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    Re: McLaren on a winning streak

    Aftermarket exhaust nails that one Smiley

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jl51GQXWfiw

     

      


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    Re: McLaren on a winning streak

    TB993tt:
    Aftermarket exhaust nails that one Smiley

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jl51GQXWfiw

     

      

    An aftermarket exhaust still sounds like crap (I heard a couple of them and none makes the 720S sound like a sporty V8, loud doesn't always mean good Smiley). Also, most aftermarket exhausts are illegal in Germany, there aren't many with approval. Even if they have approval, most aftermarket exhausts don't comply with the values in the approval certificate. So the first time the police is doing some measurements, the exhaust is gone. Not really ideal. Smiley 

    Then we could talk about throttle response and traction but then, we would end up in an argument nobody wants. Smiley

    The 720S is an amazing offer from McLaren, no doubt but you have to like a car like this to be happy with it. There is a reason I never got the 991 GT2 RS, even if I really loved (and still love) how this car looks. 


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    Re: McLaren on a winning streak

    RC:
    TB993tt:
    Aftermarket exhaust nails that one Smiley

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jl51GQXWfiw

     

      

    An aftermarket exhaust still sounds like crap (I heard a couple of them and none makes the 720S sound like a sporty V8, loud doesn't always mean good Smiley). Also, most aftermarket exhausts are illegal in Germany, there aren't many with approval. Even if they have approval, most aftermarket exhausts don't comply with the values in the approval certificate. So the first time the police is doing some measurements, the exhaust is gone. Not really ideal. Smiley 

    Then we could talk about throttle response and traction but then, we would end up in an argument nobody wants. Smiley

    The 720S is an amazing offer from McLaren, no doubt but you have to like a car like this to be happy with it. There is a reason I never got the 991 GT2 RS, even if I really loved (and still love) how this car looks. 

    You certainly have your opinions there Smiley

    Mine is that my aftermarket exhaust sounds awesome and really suits the engine I really enjoy it, I'm sorry for your German/EU exhaust rules predicament Smiley

    Not sure what your comments about throttle response and traction are about ? Certainly throttle response is never going to be like a NA engine but its pretty good, as for traction you are incorrect the 720S has incredible traction further enhanced with Michelin PS4S tyres in fact it is quite incredible how much traction the car has putting all that power down through a 305 patch 0-100kph in 2.7s doesn't look like bad traction - I guess you like NA cars which is great and of course they have lots of traction cos they don't have the torque. 


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    993 Turbo, 2006 built 3.8, 577PS/797NM, 1440kg DIN sold to a worthy enthusiast.


    Re: McLaren on a winning streak

    None of the (bi)turbo charged cars I drove so far come even close to the throttle response of the Performante. This is one of the reasons why I got this car. So far, the Ferrari 488 seems to have the best throttle response and best sound for a turbo charged car, at least compared to any McLaren model I have driven (I haven't driven the Senna or the 600LT...only in it).

    Don't get me wrong: I think the 720S is an excellent offer from McLaren but I just cannot enjoy turbo charged cars anymore. Even my E63 S, which has a pretty good throttle response in Sport+ and Race mode, annoys me. Once you are spoiled by a n/a sport engine, it is difficult to go back. 

    I still have hopes for the new hybrids showing up: A guy I know from Porsche told me that with the hybrid, the Turbo S (not sure if he means the one coming soon or the facelift) will have an amazing throttle response for a biturbo charged car, no lag at all (not that I haven't this before). I am pretty sure that with advancing technology and software programming, turbo lags will be a thing of the past at some point.

    Sound? Well, different story and yes, we have restrictive laws in Germany and it is getting worse and worse.

    You want to know how absurd this is? Example: My Performante has 94 dB in the car document. So far, so good. We all know that this is bullshit and the car produces more than 120 dB in reality. Now almost two weeks ago, I was together with a few buddies on a short trip to Garmisch, near Austria. Police had set up a checkpoint where they controlled motorcycles.

    Unfortunately for us, one of my buddies had to fully accelerate in front of the police officers and...of course...they stopped us all (four cars). One of the cars was a C63 S (pre-facelift) with an aftermarket exhaust. This exhaust is legal, the owner had all documentation with him. Maximum noise: 92 dB. Measured noise (police): 99 dB. Tolerance error is 5 dB, meaning his car had 93 dB, one(!) dB too loud.

    Consequence: No fine but my friend has to "fix" it and present the fixed car for a new measurement. We all had no clue how he can fix it because the exhaust was original, nothing modified and everything was OK. The police officer didn't care. He suspected maybe wear (exhaust was already over 15000 km "old") but how can you fix such a thing? 

    Then, they measured my car. 94 dB in the papers, measurement in Strada mode (standard mode, they are not supposed to change any OEM driving programs). Result: 101 dB. This means 2 dB too loud. Consequence: None. They checked my car for any mods, couldn't find any. One of the police officers said that they know the Performante (he knew the precise car model, not just Huracan!) is much louder in the sportier driving programs but I am actually not permitted to be louder than what is in the papers. Funny laws. Now my friend made a complaint (stupid): "Why is the Lambo louder and I don't have to do anything and he has to go to "fix" it?" The answer of the police officer caused some big laughs: "The Lamborghini can be louder, your car not".  yes

    So in the end, the police officer explained it a little bit better: The Lambo is loud from the factory, meaning that they cannot do anything about it other than to ask me to drive "less loud" and yes, they can fine me for driving too "loud" and it is in their judgement to tell if I was too loud or not. He basically told us that nowadays judges at court almost in 99% of the cases rule against loud acceleration or whatever, so you have ZERO chance to fight this in court. I believed him because I know how sensitive people are now when it comes to noise.
    The Mercedes is a different story because it has an aftermarket exhaust. The aftermarket exhaust is not an original part and even if it has a legal certification, it needs to fulfill the values in the document. If it doesn't, they can ask for the removal of that part and there is nothing you can do about it. Funny (or not).

    Yes, "great times" for sports car lovers ...not only in Germany. It is my understanding that the same laws and rulings apply in many other countries as well, little by little.

    Another friend has been fined 50 EUR a couple of weeks ago. What did he do? He accelerated from a stop light and created too much noise (according to a police officer following him). I'm not kidding. He wasn't driving too fast, he didn't endanger anyone. The police officer just told him that locals are fed up with people making too much noise in he city. That friend drives a Challenger Hellcat with OEM exhaust, so you can imagine it wasn't extremely loud. yes

    Sports cars like ours are a dying breed I'm afraid. At some point, there will be EV sports cars and some of their drivers will drive like nut jobs in the cities but nobody will actually notice because these EV sports cars will be super quiet. Wonderful new world. 


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