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    Had a scare today!

    Why do Porsche place the Sport/Sport Plus buttons right alongside a storage area? Smiley

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    I was exiting a car wash and must have touched the Sport Plus button whilst placing the receipt card in the storage area!

    Result - when a vehicle kindly let me re-join the road, I accelerated as I would when in Normal Mode.  The car flew forward with half right lock and I very nearly lost it!  Only by a very quick correction did I prevent a spin and inevitable collision.  The difference in Sport Plus handling, as against Normal, is immense..!!

    Why don't they place these important controls in a position where this couldn't happen...Smiley Smiley

     


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    "Things turn out best for people who make the best of the way things turn out."


    Re: Had a scare today!

    Glad you held it together.  Sport Chrono is a belessing and a curse.  I love the ability to relax the PSM thresholds but everything else annoys me:  the sport throttle map is too agressive to feed power whilst approaching the tyre's limit (especially in the wet) and too lethargic in normal mode; the chrono bit is ugly and pointless. And with the latest system you can add the benefit of the dynamic angine mounts and curse of the rev matching (for manuals).  I want to heel and toe!

    Its about time Porsche adopted the BMW approach where you configure your preferences rather than extremes of pre-set annoyance.


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    Gen II Cayman S


    Re: Had a scare today!

    Happens to me once every month, scary every time! angel


    Re: Had a scare today!

    John H:

    Why don't they place these important controls in a position where this couldn't happen...

    They do John ..... it's called the 991 Smiley

     

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    ISUK:
    John H:

    Why don't they place these important controls in a position where this couldn't happen...

    They do John ..... it's called the 991 Smiley

    1363127955546Sport button.JPG

    Okay Iain, I get your point and it's relevant.... but the situation remains prevalent until relatively recently.  My question now reads - why didn't they do so prior to the 991? 

    It won't happen to me again, I'll make sure of that, but this could have been serious and should have been pre-empted when the 997 design was signed off.

    My post, I hope, acts as a warning to 997.2 owners with PDK and Sports Chrono.  Believe me, it was a jolt to the system...!

     

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    "Things turn out best for people who make the best of the way things turn out."


    Re: Had a scare today!

    Nothing like a little adrenaline through the system occasionally JohnSmiley

    Seriously though - glad no damage occurred & I am really careful with fingers around that area


    Re: Had a scare today!

    I am glad it was only a scare without any bad consequences.

    However, on your Sport design steering wheel's left spoke  there is a very visible indication about the Sport Plus (and the Sport)  mode. It cannot be easily overlooked. Unless, it has been turned off at the workshop through the diagnostic tool.


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    "Form follows function"


    Re: Had a scare today!

    991 ergonomics are also far from perfect - lost count how many times I've knocked the gear leaver into manual when changing the volume on the radio. Not great when you're trying to keep below 4500 rpm for the run-in period! 

    Also wonder if I can change stop-start feature to be off by default?

    Glad you caught it though - makes you feel alive sometimes!

    Oh and I won't comment about taking a 911 through a car wash....


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    991 (what a car!) XC90 - Black/Black 2 kids, 1 dog


    Re: Had a scare today!

    John H:
    ISUK:
    John H:

    Why don't they place these important controls in a position where this couldn't happen...

    They do John ..... it's called the 991 Smiley

    1363127955546Sport button.JPG

    Okay Iain, I get your point and it's relevant.... but the situation remains prevalent until relatively recently.  My question now reads - why didn't they do so prior to the 991? 

    It won't happen to me again, I'll make sure of that, but this could have been serious and should have been pre-empted when the 997 design was signed off.

    My post, I hope, acts as a warning to 997.2 owners with PDK and Sports Chrono.  Believe me, it was a jolt to the system...!

    It's not just the button placement in the 991 - it is the whole huge center console with the almost horizontal surface which attracts dirt and is waiting for a spill.  Note in the picture above how much dirt and crud is already in the gaps between the surfaces!  Like the gap between the aluminum and the padded sides!  I guess after a few years you could turn the car upside down and enjoy some 'Porsche shakin's'  (Like toaster shakin's but more expensive).Smiley

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    "Things turn out best for people who make the best of the way things turn out."

     


    Re: Had a scare today!

    I learned the importance of paying attention to the ESP setting status (almost) the hard way:

    In my former 997 Turbo (over 560 happy horses), I wanted to make a 90° left turn into a major road and I accelerated only half throttle. The road was a bit slippery (summer, hot, lots of dirt and dust on the road) and instead of doing a 90° turn...I did a 180° one.  Luckily, there was no other car around. What had happened? Well...I was driving with PSM turned off for a while, I can handle it...as long as I know it is turned off. Unfortunately, I forgot about it because there was slow traffic for a couple of km, so I mentally "exited" my "sport mode" and entered into "comfort/relaxing mode". From that time on, I always check my ESP status before I drive sportier, just to be safe. 

    Now we probably know why Porsche doesn't offer a possibility to keep the last status and/or to choose the ESP status permanently. 


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche Panamera Turbo S, Cayenne GTS (958), BMW X3 35d (2012), Mini Cooper S Countryman All4


    Re: Had a scare today!

    reginos:

    However, on your Sport design steering wheel's left spoke  there is a very visible indication about the Sport Plus (and the Sport)  mode. It cannot be easily overlooked. Unless, it has been turned off at the workshop through the diagnostic tool.

    No time to notice the steering wheel warning - I was waiting to join the main road when, as soon as I'd accidentally touched the button, some kind guy let me out!

     


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    "Things turn out best for people who make the best of the way things turn out."


    Re: Had a scare today!

    bridggar:

    Oh and I won't comment about taking a 911 through a car wash....

    Not a drive-through car wash... they are a definite no-no! Smiley

    This was at my regular choice of American Hand Wash Centre.. They do a very good job at a reasonable price..Smiley

     

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    "Things turn out best for people who make the best of the way things turn out."


    Re: Had a scare today!

    John,

    People pay good money to have that fish tailing experience on the ice hill at the Porsche Driving Centre. You got it for free thanks to Sport Plus and a dab of judiciously applied "oppo" to correct it  indecision

    I'm just being flippant as I'm sure you realise to lighten your mood. I'm glad you survived it with nothing more than an underwear dry cleaning bill receipt that you should "carefully" place in the storage cubby smiley


    Re: Had a scare today!

    Ha-ha - you're right Iain... good job I was wearing my brown underpants!  blush

    Is that 'ice hill' the one at Silverstone where a plate flings your rear wheels either left or right on a soaking wet surface?  If so I've done it and, just maybe, the practice could have helped save my butt...?

     

     

     


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    "Things turn out best for people who make the best of the way things turn out."


    Re: Had a scare today!

    reginos:

    I am glad it was only a scare without any bad consequences.

    However, on your Sport design steering wheel's left spoke  there is a very visible indication about the Sport Plus (and the Sport)  mode. It cannot be easily overlooked. Unless, it has been turned off at the workshop through the diagnostic tool.


    As reginos said, the indication in the Sport design steering wheel is quite prominent and normally can't be overseen. At least the situation described by John never happened to me so far.
    I'd say the real problem is the multitude of switches and buttons, that have to be placed in today's (sports)cars. Ferrari made an interesting attempt in their current cars to keep the centre console clean, but the downside is that you'll have too many buttons at the steering wheel and two Idrive like satellites right and left of the dash.

    But in case of Porsche I'd say it's better to find many buttons at the classical Porsche centre console than to have them spread all over this ugly Panamera-style barrier between the seats. Smiley


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    The secret of life is to admire without desiring.


    Re: Had a scare today!

    John H:

    Ha-ha - you're right Iain... good job I was wearing my brown underpants!  blush

    Is that 'ice hill' the one at Silverstone where a plate flings your rear wheels either left or right on a soaking wet surface?  If so I've done it and, just maybe, the practice could have helped save my butt...?

     

     

     

    Glad your reactions were sharp, John. Not bad for a 38 yr old, mucker..Smiley..


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    throt

    "I didn't do it"


    Re: Had a scare today!

    I do not think there is a design flow with the buttons , but they could of been in a better place anyway.

    I do understand your surprise when you hit the throttle, but glad you have good skills kiss

    In the 991 , the buttons could be in an even worst place , as one could hit it with his elbow , no ?


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     997.2 C2S, PDK, -20mm


    Re: Had a scare today!

    Gnil:

    In the 991 , the buttons could be in an even worst place , as one could hit it with his elbow , no ?

    I don't think the buttons are reversed in a RHD car. If so, your passenger could hit them, which is even worse Smiley


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    "Form follows function"


     
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